Re: wine and Real Rhapsody player

[John Bailo <jabailo@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Ok, well, then, I feel better, since I would like to be completely 
XP-free in the next year.

However, since you seem so knowledgeable, another challenge for my 
machine is my VPN...maybe you can guide me here.

My office uses the Shiva VPN and the SST (Shiva Smart Tunneling) 
protocol.   It requires a Windows client (that the Operations department 
distributes).

Anyway, the VPN creates a tunnel via the normal tcp/ip connection.   
Once connected it sits in the XP tray.

What are the odds that something like this client can be run via Wine?

(Note: There is no equivalent native Linux client that supports SST.   
Shiva was bought by Intel and the server can be set to use IPSec; 
however, our Operations department doesn't have any IPSec tunnels set up.)



Holly Bostick wrote:

> John Bailo schreef:
>  
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> > Thanks Holly.
> >    
>
> You're welcome.
>
>  
>
> > I guess the main problem was that I had a kind of psychic block because
> > I have not used wine much, and I thought it just runs programs on
> > another Windows partition.  I couldn't imagine that you can /install/
> > programs with it!
> >    
>
> Wine wouldn't be much use in helping one *switch* to Linux, then, would
> it... if you still had to always have Windows available to install
> programs, why would you-- or how could you, more correctly said-- be
> considered to have switched (and what would be the point)?
>
> Or do you expect to be condemned to dual-boot forever :-D ? Trust me,
> you're not, not by a long shot :) .
>
> Holly
>
>  
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> > Holly Bostick wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > John Bailo schreef:
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > I am trying to make Rhapsody (the Real Networks music
> > > > service) to run under wine.
> > > >
> > > > This guy, AmishGeek, says he got it to work:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.amishgeek.com/info/rhapsody
> > > >
> > > > But I don't quite understand all his instructions...and I tried
> > > > sending him
> > > > an email but his email box was full.   I don't understand the parts
> > > > about
> > > > installing windows media ( my machine is dual boot XP, Suse 9.3 ).  
> > > > Does he want me to install it under the XP partition or Suse?
> > > >  
> > > >        
> > > SuSE, of course. If you read more carefully, you will see that AmishGuy
> > > has two computers, one at home (XP) and one at university/work (SuSE),
> > > so there is no way that the suggestion to install IE and Windows Media
> > > Player could relate to XP, because there is no XP on the SuSE machine
> > > (it's not a dual-boot machine).
> > >
> > > Secondly, you are already attempting to install a Windows program
> > > (Rhapsody) under Wine, so it surprises me that you would be confused by
> > > advice to install other programs under Wine first. You've installed
> > > Rhapsody to SuSE without reference to your XP partition, right? So why
> > > would your XP partition suddenly be relevant when attempting to install
> > > these dependencies?
> > >
> > > Apparently, the functioning of Rhapsody depends on two other programs
> > > (IE and WMP 7.1). So these programs must be installed by Wine in order
> > > for your install of Rhapsody to recognize them and function correctly.
> > > What possible good would it do Wine to install them to the XP partition
> > > (especially since they're already installed under Windows anyway, so if
> > > they needed to be there for Wine, they would already be seen by Wine)?
> > > But Wine does not refer to existing Windows installs by default, and it
> > > is strongly recommended that Wine not be set to do so. The default and
> > > preferred Wine configuration is considered to be Windows-less (i.e., a
> > > real Windows install does not exist on the system), even if that is not
> > > really the case.
> > >
> > > The site gives you a link to the Sidenet utility that AmishGuy used to
> > > install IE and WMP under Wine, did you follow it? (The title "Sidenet
> > > Wine Configuration" is a link to the site where you can download
> > > Sidenet.) I've never used Sidenet, but apparently it works for this
> > > purpose.
> > >
> > > You might also consider WineTools, which apparently has a SuSE RPM, so
> > > it might be easier for you to install than the Sidenet utility:
> > > http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/winetools.html
> > > (contains a link to the WineTools site)
> > >
> > > or you might also consider:
> > >
> > > Crossover Office (a commercial variant of Wine which installs IE and WMP
> > > as supported applications). A free trial is available:
> > > http://www.codeweavers.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > In Suse:
> > > >
> > > > If I open a terminal and enter:
> > > >
> > > > jbailo@texeme:~> wine /windows/C/Program\ Files/Rhapsody/rhapsody.exe 
> > > > It does a whole bunch of crazy stuff like this:
> > > >  
> > > >        
> > > It's not 'crazy stuff'. *Rhapsody requires that IE and WMP be installed
> > > before it will run.* You do not have IE or WMP installed (as far as Wine
> > > is concerned), so Rhapsody cannot find them, and thus will not run. The
> > > specifics of the errors are in this case irrelevant, because you have
> > > not met Rhapsody's minimum system requirements, so of course it's going
> > > to error out. If it still errors out after you get IE and WMP installed,
> > > then we'll have something to talk about, in terms of what the errors are
> > > ;) .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > Any advice would be well appreciated as I love Rhapsody but I'm
> > > > forced to boot into XP to use it!
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >        
> > > Since pretty thorough instructions have been given on the page you've
> > > linked to, try following them and see how far you get. Since these are
> > > 'how I got it to work' instructions, if you follow them, you should be
> > > able to get it working at least as well as AmishGeek did.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Holly
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