--- Hannu Valtonen <Hannu.Valtonen@xxxxxx> wrote: > Hiji wrote: > >>It seems that wine20040419 is the most stable > >>release (the one used by > >>wine-tools). > >>It is the only release which can run Lotus Notes > >>without any problems. > >>But this version was released more than a year > ago, > >>and it should NOT be > >>more stable than a newer version. > >>Wine should be moving forward NOT backward! > > > > > > My thoughts exactly. As grateful as I am for the > > existence of Wine, I've been meaning to draft up a > > short email to the development team about my > concerns > > about its progression. The primary concern is > that > > "yes. Wine should be moving forward" - on the > > development side it is, but for the end-user the > dev's > > progression translates into backwards steps. > (That > > is, until the dev finishes what they were doing.) > > Currently, I'm stuck on wine-20041201 because > > Dreamweaver MX won't install on newer versions; I > > think it's because they're still working on > getting > > installers properly working, but who knows when > that > > will get done. A year before that, Photoshop 7 > didn't > > work for at least 6+ months when previously it > did. > > It's for these reasons (I believe) that Winetools > is > > stuck on an older version too. > > > > Again, I'm grateful for Wine, but it also helps to > > know this stuff for your own sanity. With Wine, > you > > just have to be patient for newer versions. I > just > > wish the road-to-upgrades was smoother. ;) > > Well, it wouldn't hurt if Wine users started > reporting regressions to > Bugzilla/or the mailinglists more actively. Such a > mail/bugzilla entry > should also _always_ come with a note attached > saying which patch broke > it. There are instructions for this on the web page. > > (http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wine-devel/x1318) > > It is exceedingly difficult to know beforehand if > fixing a particular > problem in Wine breaks another application. Lately > we have also been > bitten by the x11drv rewrite, and you may end up > finding that the patch > that broke your app might be one of those. But the > only way for us to > know it broke something is to speak up. (With the > information pointing > out the precise patch that broke it) > > - Hannu Valtonen > Definately. I agree here too. The best first route to take would be to have a healthy discussion about what we can all do to ensure that Wine does indeed continue to move forward. Then, from that, establish a "process" for this that everyone is aware of. Of course, this is easier said than done, but it's definately worth making a mental note of. Hiji __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users