But not quite. If I could just get past the sound, I think it might start and run. I'm running Wine in desktop display mode, emulating win98. comdlg32, shell32, shlwapi, and '*' are set to "native, builtin" while the rest of the DLLs that the default installation names are builtin, native. I've tried running it with 'winedbg --gdb civilization3', and it always hangs when it tries to start sound (Now would be a good time to mention that the sound when I run in Win98 sounds like it's having an epileptic seizure). It starts out loading ntdll, kernel32, advapi, gdi32, user32, crtdll, glu32, dciman32, opengl32, winmm, shlwapi, comctl32, shell32, comdlg32, and x11drv, in that order, all from C:\windows\system, without errors beyond complaining about not having a .dbg file available. Then it gets a GDI error, a packet error, and implodes, here with the sound driver set to JACK: 0000000a:0000000b: loads DLL C:\windows\system\imm32.dll @bfe20000 (0<0>) Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file 0000000a:0000000c: create thread D @404fe600 fixme:gdi:Escape16 unknown/unsupported 16-bit escape c03 (56,0x40370f86,0x40370fce fixme:gdi:Escape16 unknown/unsupported 16-bit escape c03 (56,0x40370f86,0x40370fce 0000000a:0000000b: loads DLL C:\windows\system\winejack.drv @41350000 (0<0>) 0000000a:0000000b: unload DLL @41350000 0000000a:0000000b: loads DLL C:\windows\system\wineoss.drv @41350000 (0<0>) Ignoring packet error, continuing... 0000000a:0000000b: exception code=0x80000003 [New Thread 11] [Switching to Thread 11] 0x404e750f in ?? () trace: 98 => 80 Wine-gdb> Quit I've got this feeling that if I could just tell it 'NO SOUND' it would run, albeit quietly. I've tried editing ~/.wine/config and setting the sound drivers to null, to no avail: Apparently it still insists on having a sound API there, goes for wineoss, and crashes. When I try telling to use wineoss it throws this out: 0000000a:0000000b: loads DLL C:\windows\system\imm32.dll @bfe20000 (0<0>) Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file 0000000a:0000000c: create thread D @404fe600 fixme:gdi:Escape16 unknown/unsupported 16-bit escape c03 (56,0x40370f86,0x40370fce fixme:gdi:Escape16 unknown/unsupported 16-bit escape c03 (56,0x40370f86,0x40370fce Ignoring packet error, continuing... 0000000a:0000000b: loads DLL C:\windows\system\wineoss.drv @41350000 (0<0>) 0000000a:0000000b: exception code=0x80000003 Couldn't establish connection to remote target Malformed response to offset query, OK (gdb) *sigh* quit Might the problem be in GDI instead? Thanks in advance for your help! _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users