Chris, I understand your question, and to some extent I share your frustration. I don't exactly understand the relationship between the Crossover folks and the more general wine development community. First, there is clearly sharing going on. There must be since many of the bugs in the WineHQ Bugzilla system are assigned to and solved by Codeweavers people. To that extent most certainly I think that the Open Source version of Wine benefits from the work that Codeweavers does. However, and this is what I do not understand, my current version of Crossover Office identifies itself as Wine-20040213. (yes...Friday the 13th...) ;-) So, if so many things work on wine-20040213, then how come so many things do NOT work on wine-20041019??? I understand that Codeweavers has put a lot of work into their installer, and for me that is enough of a reason to spend some money with them. That program gets my programs installed, and it's not part of Wine, so if they are keeping technology secret in that area then more power to them. I guess they own it and that's OK with me. However, I am frustrated that so many things that appear to work, according to the Wine Application Database won't install for me, much less run. So far more than 75% of the programs I've tried recently die during install in the debugger. None the less, even if everything I've said is true, and it is probably not, I still think Wine is an amazing accomplishment and getting better. I'd like to support the effort, but it's hard to learn and hard to make an impact at my level. One idea I've had is to start some sort of more useful application database. something more along the lines of a table that shows applciation on the left and then a bunch of columns representing releases of Wine. If we were to have user/owners of each app express a willingness to test their one app against a new release of Wine every month or so I think we'd have a better idea of what we can, as normal users, expect to have work for us. I also think that it's a real shame that the Wine App database doesn't include config file modifications required to get applications to work. People learn things and then we have to Google them out of the Internet and try applying them. I realize that this idea is somewhat like Frank's Corner, and maybe it could be done there with some of his help. Anyway, that's my view. Wine is really great when it works. - Mark On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:45:38 -0600, Chris Cox <onebeer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Does the non-free versions of wine known as Codeweavers Crossover ever make it > into the free versions? I really can't justify paying for Codeweavers right > now since I only use it every once in a while for one app. But it sure works > a lot nicer than the non-free version. > > -- > - Chris > Linux 2.6.9-gentoo-r2 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP > 23:43:35 up 2 days, 8:05, 7 users, load average: 0.29, 0.32, 0.21 > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
