On Wednesday 15 October 2003 02:00 pm, Webmaster@care.org wrote: > First off, I should let you know that I'm new to Wine... On a fresh > copy of RedHat 9, I installed the most recent version of Wine (from > source) and it seems to be working fine. However, one of the biggest > reasons I put Wine on this machine was so I can run a copy of > Internet Explorer under Linux. However, I haven't been able to locate > a full network install of IE6, and their setup program complains > about needing a Window OS... (the nerve!!). > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone been able to run IE > under Wine? If so, how? I'd prefer IE6, since that's the latest, > but 5.5 would be ok too. Like someone else, I found that another application automatically installed IE5 when it installed. I have no problems running IE5.5 using Wine on a Mandrake Linux 9.1 installation. However, I don't use it for actually surfing. I only look at web pages that I create on it. > By the way, before anyone starts... I know about the various Open > Source browsers and all that, I prefer Mozilla. But, I have to be > able to test web application under IE, and I'd REALLY prefer not to > bother with a MS system if I can help it. Regardless of whether we > like MS products or not, they have 90% of the desktop market and > browser market, While 90% of the computers sold for the desktop market have MS-Windows already installed on them, have you checked the traffic on the web sites that you're concerned with? I think you might find that the number of people actually using IE may be less than that figure -- unless you're restricting the site to only IE visitors. I have a number of sites, none of which restrict browser usage, and only one of them focuses on Linux issues. The others have nothing to do with computers or Linux. On my busiest site which gets thousands of hits per day, the percentage of IE visitors never exceeds 81% and is frequently lower than that figure. On the site that focuses on Linux issues, IE visitors never exceed 55% per day and are frequently lower than that figure. In addition, Opera will mask itself as IE. I've been noticing a steady increase of Opera users not masking themselves as IE on all my sites, which suggests that the number of Opera users masking themselves in order to get on sites that only talk to IE is also increasing. That means that the number of IE visitors is probably less than the traffic data indicates. > so if you are professionally building a web > applications or sites or any other thing that uses a web browser and > is going to be publicly accessible, you're fooling yourself (and > being a rather poor software designer) if you let your *nix pride > keep you from testing on IE. The latest browsers are all using HTML 4.0 and that includes IE6. So if you are excluding other browsers, you are using features that are only included with MS-Windows like ActiveX. Since IE has started trying to conform better to the general standards, I've not noticed much of a difference between how most things look on IE versus other browsers. There is a big difference, however, if you're using IE5 because it has a lot of idiosyncrasies that never conformed to general HTML standards. > (The preceding paragraph is in response the some of the worthless > responses I saw in the archives regarding any question about using IE > under Wine... I didn't find any actual answers, just replies about > changing User-Agents and snipes about IE users... It's not a > question of user agent, it a question of stuff not working in IE. If > it doesn't work in IE and you want the world to see it... Then that > mean your world is less than 10% of the internet-going population of > the world...) If you're doing something that is not working in IE, is it working in any of the browsers? Most of the other browsers don't do anything that is unique, unlike IE with ActiveX. Usually if it's working in Mozilla, it's also working in IE. It's MS that produces the restrictive software by using functions that only ship with their browser. The other browsers use functions and plugins that are universally available, even to IE users. > If IE can't run under Wine... I guess I'll have to use VMWare and > install Windows... *shudders* Depending on what exactly you are trying to get it to do, you may have to go that route anyway. Wine has not yet implemented all the dlls that come with MS-Windows. CodeWeavers' Crossover Office Suite has the best record for running MS-produced software. deedee Registered Linux User #327485 Visit "WordStar & GNU/Linux" http://www.wordstar2.com Also, see the WordStar Users Group http://www.wordstar2.com/cbabbage/wordstar _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@winehq.com http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
