On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Ken Sharp wrote: [...] > > We have some instructions on Bugzilla's bug submission page (currently > > 'Please do not PASTE logs and back traces'). It may make sense to add > > something for the bug links either there or on the page confirming the > > bug was enered. It would have a much better chance of being read there > > than on the Wiki. > > Just add the link to the Wiki. It's there already. Since you don't seem to know that it means you've either never entered a Wine bug (but you made claims that seem to indicate the contrary), or that you yourself don't read the instructions on how to enter a bug. So why do you expect others to? So I stand by my assessement that you have unrealistically high expectations of others, and that going to a separate website is not part of the normal workflow for entering a bug. I'll also add that I've been entering Wine bugs for about as long as is possible and I was not aware of the requirement to add the bugs in the AppDB. Note that I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have the AppDB and Bugzilla nicely cross-referenced or that we shouldn't strive for it. What I'm saying is: * As things stand you cannot act all surprised that it's not the case. * Putting all the blame on the bug reporters like you seem to be doing is not how you will improve the situation. -- Francois Gouget <fgouget@xxxxxxx> http://fgouget.free.fr/ "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)" -- Linus Torvalds