Well I'm out of ideas. I've compiled, and install gcc-1.4.6 which is the latest. I've re-compiled my WINE. I've re-installed all required dependencies. I've installed ATI Radeon Drivers. I've updated to windows .NET 2 Still the closest the twp programs come to running is a connecting to serve display page for 2 seconds...the program crashes taking down my desktop back to the linux login screen. I'm ready to give up unless anyone else has some suggestions. WhiteHawk [Embarassed]