"Andreas Mohr Usenet 07/01" <xsidycvl001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message 9huiun$8sa$1@news.BelWue.DE">news:9huiun$8sa$1@news.BelWue.DE... > If you want blazingly fast Wine GDI speed, then what about writing another > graphics driver ? (for GGI, Berlin, ...) > The infrastructure already kind of exists anyway... I have actually looked at why wine is so slow. I very rapidly came to the conclusion that it was X that was the problem. I looked at a some of the wine code and saw that it pussy-footed around X to get a result. I have not devoted a lot of time to it but the issues seem to be : 1. X sucks when it comes to high efficiency graphics, especially bitmaps 2. Wine has had to do all the hard work itself - ie unaccellerated crude C implementations 3. There is no way to use any hardware assistance when you have to run through X (unless specific GDI calls can be mapped?) 4. (trivially) The present release of wine doesn't allow remote X servers to operate, rather negating any benefit of X > > Secondarily, there are faults in the implementation of some GDI functions, > > especially fonts, but even simple line drawing and polyfilling is faulty. > Sure. > I know that e.g. controls/static.c is horribly broken. > I'll fix it very, very soon. > (it affects many programs) I am not talking about complex problems I am talking about things like polylines are too thin, or polygons don't quite fit. I realise again, this is almost certainly a problem with the X interface. (fonts are another question. I am seriously unimpressed with the fonts I am provided with, but I haven't tried to work around them yet) > what about getting active ON YOUR OWN ? :-) I'd love to. I think wine is a good idea. However I don't think things can be greatly improved in the GDI area if the X model is maintained. I have seen a number of projects that provide fast accellerated graphics on *nix systems that don't use (or not wholly use) X. they of course dispense with the remote capability, but as of the release I am using for wine, this is not an issue as it doesn't do it anyway :-) Wouldn't it be great is wine could use native windows drivers for display cards and bypass all the X problems ? Probably impossible or totally impractical, but staying with X will always result in a slower, not quite right solution. jeremy P.S. If I am annoying you, it is because I want a better outcome for everyone, not because it is an easy thing to complain. _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@winehq.com http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
