Re: French DVB-T Channel IDs vs. EIT Channel IDs

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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:30:36 +0100
Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 01.03.2018 10:22, Patrick Boettcher wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:01:23 +0100
> > Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 27.02.2018 17:58, Patrick Boettcher wrote:  
> >> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 16:54:35 +0100
> >> > Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >     
> >> >> Hello Patrick,
> >> >> 
> >> >> your scan doesn't contain the NIT, which is where the
> >> >> transponder innformation is broadcast. Can you scan that, too,
> >> >> please?    
> >> > 
> >> > Hi Klaus,
> >> > 
> >> > NIT attached (from another multiplex with the same symptoms).    
> >> 
> >>              DVB-DescriptorTag: 90 (0x5a)  [=
> >> terrestrial_delivery_system_descriptor] descriptor_length: 11
> >> (0x0b) Center frequency: 0xffffffff (= 42949672.095 kHz)
> >> 
> >> @@ -219,6 +219,8 @@
> >>                    cDvbTransponderParameters dtp;
> >>                    int Source = cSource::FromData(cSource::stTerr);
> >>                    int Frequency = Frequencies[0] =
> >> sd->getFrequency() * 10;
> >> +                 Frequency = Transponder() * 1000000;//XXX
> >> +                 dsyslog("Frequency = %08X, Transponder = %d",
> >> sd->getFrequency(), Transponder());//XXX static int Bandwidths[] =
> >> { 8000000, 7000000, 6000000, 5000000, 0, 0, 0, 0 };
> >> dtp.SetBandwidth(Bandwidths[sd->getBandwidth()]); static int
> >> Constellations[] = { QPSK, QAM_16, QAM_64, QAM_AUTO };  
> > 
> > It works. I had to have VDR recreate the channels because it was
> > mixing things up with the already existing ones.
> > 
> > As to why the frequency is set to "-10" I don't know (yet), but I
> > remember it has always been like this since 2005.
> > 
> > Initial tuning files have always contained all active frequencies
> > for their region, because the NIT did not set the center frequencies
> > correctly.
> > 
> > It might be because the multiplexed transport streams are generated
> > centrally and then distributed to all the base-stations where they
> > are emitted as-is but on different frequencies depending on the
> > region.
> > 
> > What can we do to get this upstream?  
> 
> I'm afraid I don't see how this case can be handled correctly.
> 
> Maybe somebody else has an idea?

One approach might be to ignore frequencies for DVB-T channels update
during NIT parsing (in France only?).

>From my experiences with DVB-T SetTopBoxes using the NIT for
new channel-discovery is rarely done. No customer of my ex-employer was
using it - scanning was entirely based on continuous frequency-band
scanning with a spare demod. 

That would be my idea. But I don't know whether this can be easily
applied to VDR.

--
Patrick.

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