A bit more into this.. I tried dvbsnooping different satellites, I noticed some difference. This is from Thor, 1.0W: ----------------------- Transport_stream_ID: 4 (0x0004) Original_network_ID: 70 (0x0046) [= 1 degree W | Telenor] reserved_1: 15 (0x0f) Transport_descriptor_length: 191 (0x00bf) DVB-DescriptorTag: 67 (0x43) [= satellite_delivery_system_descriptor] descriptor_length: 11 (0x0b) Frequency: 17967360 (= 11.22900 GHz) Orbital_position: 16 (= 1.0) West_East_flag: 0 (0x00) [= WEST] Polarisation: 0 (0x00) [= linear - horizontal] Kind: 0 (0x00) [= DVB-S] fixed ('00'): 0 (0x00) Modulation_type: 1 (0x01) [= QPSK] Symbol_rate: 2379776 (= 24.5000) FEC_inner: 5 (0x05) [= 7/8 conv. code rate] DVB-DescriptorTag: 65 (0x41) [= service_list_descriptor] descriptor_length: 30 (0x1e) service_ID: 418 (0x01a2)[ --> refers to PMT program_number] service_type: 1 (0x01) [= digital television service] (other sid's follow, cut away for clarity) ---------------------------- But this "faulty" transponder in S13E: ---------------------------- Transport_stream_ID: 7500 (0x1d4c) Original_network_ID: 64511 (0xfbff) [= Sky Italia | Sky Italia Spa.] reserved_1: 15 (0x0f) Transport_descriptor_length: 54 (0x0036) DVB-DescriptorTag: 65 (0x41) [= service_list_descriptor] descriptor_length: 39 (0x27) service_ID: 4117 (0x1015)[ --> refers to PMT program_number] service_type: 25 (0x19) [= advanced codec HD digital television service] (other sid's follow, cut away for clarity) DVB-DescriptorTag: 67 (0x43) [= satellite_delivery_system_descriptor] descriptor_length: 11 (0x0b) Frequency: 19007128 (= 12.20698 GHz) Orbital_position: 304 (= 13.0) West_East_flag: 1 (0x01) [= EAST] Polarisation: 0 (0x00) [= linear - horizontal] Kind: 1 (0x01) [= DVB-S2] Roll Off Faktor: 0 (0x00) [= Alpha 0.35] Modulation_type: 2 (0x02) [= 8PSK] Symbol_rate: 2723840 (= 29.9000) FEC_inner: 3 (0x03) [= 3/4 conv. code rate] ---------------------------- So.. DVB-DescriptorTag's 65 and 67 appear in opposite order! Could it be that VDR has transponder data still uninitialized when it is scanning the service id, because 67 is not arrived yet? -- Teemu Suikki http://www.z-power.fi/ _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr