+1 ML is the most usable for French users, even if I understand a little bit German for my part, technical discussion is difficult to understand and google translator is funny sometimes applied to vdr portal. Regarding French forum having vdr section, regarding their technical skills, user build sources and plugins, most use pre builded yavdr packages and few "needed but never discussed here" plugins For my part, I will stay under 1.7.22 that works perfectly in HD with extended patch giving extension necessary in common use like cutterqueue, freesat epg, extended records menu etc etc .. and wait 2.0 to upgrade This is an advice of small French user Klaus, thanks for this nice piece of software, Keep the good job, I am very happy with my mediacenter based on vdr Thanks Le dimanche 30 décembre 2012 18:27:02, VDR User a écrit : > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:26 AM, fnu <vdr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Why are the majority of the users German - and why does it stay that > >> way? > > > > Is it for the greater benefit of VDR? > > > > This is not the fault of the german users, VDR is historically a "german > > speaking project", initiated by a german guy, used by the biggest VDR > > community, german, austrian and swiss people. I guess most of them don't > > feel save enough to write in english, they don't want to be blamed for > > not being nativ speaker and vdr-portal.de is far the better way to find > > information and solution. > > > > You should rather ask why the rest does not join this biggest VDR forum? > > There are a lot of people answering in english ... > > That's no mystery at all. When you go to vdrportal, easily the vast > majority of posts are in german. That doesn't make it appear as an > english-friendly forum and is an immediate turn-off. How are users > supposed to search for what they're looking for? Maybe they should > just ask the same questions over and over again, probably getting > bashed for doing so and not "searching" the forum for previous answers > to the same questions. Next, NA users tend to have questions regarding > NA-specific issues, which german users tend to not have answers to > since its not something they have to deal with. That's just two of the > most common issues, but certainly not all of them. > > I know TONS of english-speaking users who have visited vdrportal and > most of them haven't returned because the little sprinkles of english > posts aren't enough to make them feel comfortable asking questions, > getting answers, or feeling like a welcome visitor/member. And > honestly, do germans want to have to keep translating everything for > non-german users when they're asked? I doubt it. As good as vdrportal > is as a VDR resource, the language barrier _is_ a problem for english > speakers. > > As far as the mailing list, many users seem to think its for devs only > and/or they don't have anything to contribute being users with nothing > but questions. There are also many users who simply don't use mailing > lists (or forums for that matter) either because they don't want to or > because they think others will ask and they can just search for > answers. I think it's unfortunate because if they did, people would > have a better idea of the types of VDR users that exist, and further > they would have some clue about how big non-german/non-european VDR > communities exist. > > Everything above is all common and has been at least as long as my own > VDR history started about 10 years ago. Keep in mind, even VDR itself > wasn't even NA friendly for most of its existence. > > _______________________________________________ > vdr mailing list > vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
