Hello, Some time ago, I started a discussion in german on the VDR forum about making the VDR more friendly for users that are simultaneously using different sources to receive channels: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board16-video-disk-recorder/board8-vdr-grundlagen/110156-%C3%BCberlegungen-zur-channels-conf-f%C3%BCr-dvb-c-s-t-mischbetrieb/index3.html I am going to explain the problem, when receiving channels from two different sources by using the second german public channel named ZDF: Suppose a user is receiving the channel ZDF by dvb-s and dvb-t. For the VDR, these are two different channels, and it probably is not a bad thing that the VDR differentiates between them because these channels might be of different quality (different data rates, etc.). However, as both sources name these channels often the same way, it is not easily possible to differentiate between the two channels in the VDR OSD, which is particularly annoying for the timers, one of the main VDR features. Currently, I work around this problem, by setting the VDR to not update channelnames and manually adding a suffix to the channelnames in the channels.conf. So, to use the example above and differentiate between the two channels, they could be renamed to ZDF-s and ZDF-t (or ZDF.s and ZDF.t, or...). In practice, I only only rename the channelnames of the source with the smallest number of channels; I know that the channelnames without suffix are those from the other source. @ Klaus Do you think that you could add an additional option to one of your next VDR releases, like "Add suffix about source to channelnames"; I could imagine such an option next to the "Update channels" option in the DVB section of the Setup in the OSD of the VDR. Since the information is already in the channels.conf for every channel, I assume, that it will not require huge changes to the VDR code to use channelnames-source (or something similar) instead of only the channelname in the channelname field of the channels.conf, when the corresponding option is active. In case, I am missing something, I would also like to ask everybody reading this to let us know, if for any reason, the idea about replacing the channelnames with channelname-source cannot work. There are of course also other solutions, like adding a system to the VDR allowing the user to indicate to the VDR, that both ZDF channels (to continue with the example above) are only variations of the same channel; the VDR could thus only show one of the two channels in his channellist (hd channels could also be seen as another variation of the channel); a priority system would be required to indicate what variation of the channel to use for recordings,... Restarting the discussion about how to best handle the simultaneous reception of more than one source is on my ToDo list since I started that thread in the german forum. Unfortunately, I did not have the time to do it until now, and probably will not have the time to do it seriously in the near future. Moreover, since I got the idea about simply adding the information about the source to the string of the channelname, I decided to ask for it, instead of waiting for something, that would probably require a long time to get designed and implemented. Cheers, Ludi _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr