> At least when I started to use VDR a long time ago, channels.conf pretty much *had* to be created with tools that weren't included with VDR ("scan" or something like that from dvb-apps). > I haven't checked recently, but I suspect it's the same these days. Well that is an other question and valid argument, why is there no sufficient solution to scan for channels in VDR, like is quit normal on commercial solution. Not that I like to have a stupid on, which provides me 4000 channels from satellite, whereas only 40-80 or so are really relevent for me and do have trouble to sort it out laters, like it is also quit normal on commercial solutions. There is at a command line tool available, "w_scan" or a plugin "vdr-plugin-wirbelscan". But yes I can go with the thought, this should be rather a nativ VDR function. But this will be pretty difficult to implement, since VDR runs with a uncounted number of DVB devices. Whereas commercial solutions do need to work just with their one and only DVB device type. It doesn't matter if it is avaiblable with DVB-C/T/S receivers, it's always just one type. So the software does need to be able to run with 3 different DVB type in max. and not with a thousend or so ... Regards fnu _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr