On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:46:32 +0100 Eric Valette <eric.valette@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 12/12/2010 19:24, VDR User wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Paul Menzel > > <paulepanter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> Having epg in a DB (sqlite,mysql) might also be nice. > >>> > >>> You are going to find a lot of opposition to this. Thinking of > >>> sql, I don't recall ever hearing anyone suggest VDR using it > >>> would be a good idea but I have heard people will look into other > >>> options if it ever did go that route (as mythtv uses currrently). > >> > >> That is why Steffen wrote to make it a plugin. > > > > EPG support falls into the category of the most basic functionality. > > I'm not convinced things like this belong as optional plugins to be > > honest. Some things, such as VDR's attachment to FF cards, make > > sense as plugins. But it seems the automatic answer to everything > > is 'make it a plugin' now. So is VDR to become merely a plugin > > manager with no actual core functionality anymore? Is it wise to > > have VDR rely on plugins to be usable at all? These types of > > questions deserve consideration when you want to walk on slippery > > slopes. > > Remember that for example in france the DVB-T stream EPG contains > only the actual program and the next program. So it is hardly useable > at all. external epg source is possible allready - i just think the merge and general handling could be improved :) > You now have most other video recorder code that use xmltv one way or > other (tvheadend, myth, ...). I like VDR because it is simple but OSD > is so poor that it need to be integrated in something else (xine, > xbmc) to provide a decent GUI and then you need a bunch of plugins > (streamdev, epgsearch, ...). Plus there is almost no up-to-date > documentation for plugins, or only in german, no centrailised source > repositories because of the plugins are developped elsewhere... vdr-developer.org is a beginning :) and most new development is announced here too. > So I second this post and think that decent epg is a basic feature > for searching program and programmed recording based on epg and that > dvb-t based stream is not the right way to go because it will contain > very few infos in most countries. xmltv epg can be translated and imported into VDR now allready, there are a couple of other epg providing plugins and scripts as well, the main problem is available epg data possible to be fetched and translated. > For those on linux, look at what qmagneto does and imagine it can > talk to vdr to program recordings... I use it in cunjunction with > mpalyer --dumpfile -dumstream to record IPTV streams. > What about live plugin if the epg is imported into vdr ? It can handle epgsearch searchtimer, normal timer etc - so that allready exist to some extend :) _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr