Hi Klaus,
yes, it's tested by.
I don't know why they don't stick to the standard and use their own user defined value. I was always wondering why vdr didn't find a channel on those transponders, but now I know the reason. Do you know why standalone sat receivers find those channels? Would be interesting if these receivers consider 0x86 or just add all channels no matter what ID.
I will check if unencrypted channels like Luxe HD or ITV1 HD are also using 0x86.
kind regards
Newspaperman
--- Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx> schrieb am So, 16.5.2010:
> Von: Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx>
> Betreff: Re: dvb-s2 transponder can be received but channels are not automatically found
> An: vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Datum: Sonntag, 16. Mai, 2010 20:31 Uhr
> On 16.05.2010 19:13, Newsy Paper
> wrote:
> > Hi Klaus,
> >
> > thx very much. with this line it's working fine now
> for this transponder at 23.5East.
> > But BSkyB at 28.2East is using another id. Service
> type 0x86 on their HD channels.
> >
> >
> > So I would suggest a new case
> > +case 0x86: // BSkyB HD television service
>
> Have you actually tested this?
> This is an undefined value ("User defined"), so any
> provider could
> use that for something different.
> Besides, AFAIK "Sky1 HD" is encrypted, and there is no CAM
> for the
> Sky channels :-(
>
> Klaus
>
> > here's a short part of pid 0x11.
> >
> > Service_id: 3861 (0x0f15) [= --> refers
> to PMT program_number]
> > reserved_1: 63 (0x3f)
> > EIT_schedule_flag: 1 (0x01)
> > EIT_present_following_flag: 1
> (0x01)
> > Running_status: 4 (0x04)
> [= running]
> > Free_CA_mode: 1 (0x01)
> [= streams [partially] CA controlled]
> > Descriptors_loop_length: 157
> (0x009d)
> >
> >
> DVB-DescriptorTag: 73 (0x49) [=
> country_availibility_descriptor]
> >
> descriptor_length: 7 (0x07)
> >
> country_availability_flag: 1 (0x01)
> >
> reserved: 127 (0x7f)
> >
> country_code: GBR
> >
> country_code: IRL
> >
> >
> DVB-DescriptorTag: 95 (0x5f) [=
> private_data_specifier_descriptor]
> >
> descriptor_length: 4 (0x04)
> >
> PrivateDataSpecifier: 2 (0x00000002)
> [= BskyB 1]
> >
> >
> DVB-DescriptorTag: 72 (0x48) [=
> service_descriptor]
> >
> descriptor_length: 15 (0x0f)
> >
> service_type: 134 (0x86) [= User
> defined]
> >
> service_provider_name_length: 5 (0x05)
> >
> service_provider_name: "BSkyB" --
> Charset: Latin alphabet
> >
> service_name_length: 7 (0x07)
> >
> Service_name: "Sky1 HD" -- Charset:
> Latin alphabet
> >
> >
> > --- Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx>
> schrieb am So, 16.5.2010:
> >
> >> Von: Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx>
> >> Betreff: Re: dvb-s2 transponder can be
> received but channels are not automatically found
> >> An: vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Datum: Sonntag, 16. Mai, 2010 16:24 Uhr
> >> On 15.05.2010 14:50, Newsy Paper
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi Klaus,
> >>>
> >>> thx for your answer. Only 3 channels are found
> Ned3,
> >> Film1 HD and Sport 1 HD. I also noticed this
> problem on some
> >> dvb-s2 transponders at 28.2 East.
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> SECT-Packet: 00000014 PID:
> 17
> >> (0x0011), Length: 292 (0x0124)
> >>> Time received: Sat 2010-05-15
> 14:40:00.207
> >>>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> 0000: 42 f1 21 0c 96 e3 00
> >> 00 00 03 ff 51 ae ff 80
> >> 19 B.!........Q....
> >>> 0010: 48 17 16 0d 43 61 6e
> >> 61 6c 64 69 67 69 74 61
> >> 61 H...Canaldigitaa
> >>> 0020: 6c 07 46 69 6c 6d 31
> >> 2e 32 51 b3 ff 80 19 48
> >> 17 l.Film1.2Q....H.
> >>> 0030: 16 0d 43 61 6e 61 6c
> >> 64 69 67 69 74 61 61 6c
> >> 07 ..Canaldigitaal.
> >>> 0040: 46 69 6c 6d 31 2e 33
> >> 51 b8 ff 80 1e 48 1c 16
> >> 0d Film1.3Q....H...
> >>> 0050: 43 61 6e 61 6c 64 69
> >> 67 69 74 61 61 6c 0c 46
> >> 69 Canaldigitaal.Fi
> >>> 0060: 6c 6d 31 20 41 63 74
> >> 69 6f 6e 51 bd ff 80 18
> 48 lm1
> >> ActionQ....H
> >>> 0070: 16 16 0d 43 61 6e 61
> >> 6c 64 69 67 69 74 61 61
> >> 6c ...Canaldigitaal
> >>> 0080: 06 53 70 6f 72 74 31
> >> 51 c2 ff 80 1a 48 18 16
> >> 0d .Sport1Q....H...
> >>> 0090: 43 61 6e 61 6c 64 69
> >> 67 69 74 61 61 6c 08 53
> >> 70 Canaldigitaal.Sp
> >>> 00a0: 6f 72 74 31 2e 32 51
> >> c7 fc 80 16 48 14 16 0d
> >> 43 ort1.2Q....H...C
> >>> 00b0: 61 6e 61 6c 64 69 67
> >> 69 74 61 61 6c 04 74 73
> >> 74 analdigitaal.tst
> >>> 00c0: 32 51 d6 ff 80 19 48
> >> 17 19 0d 43 61 6e 61 6c
> >> 64 2Q....H...Canald
> >>> 00d0: 69 67 69 74 61 61 6c
> >> 07 4e 45 44 33 20 48 44
> >> 51 igitaal.NED3 HDQ
> >>> 00e0: db ff 80 1b 48 19 19
> >> 0d 43 41 4e 41 4c 44 49
> >> 47 ....H...CANALDIG
> >>> 00f0: 49 54 41 41 4c 09 46
> >> 69 6c 6d 20 31 20 48 44
> 51 ITAAL.Film
> >> 1 HDQ
> >>> 0100: e0 ff 80 1c 48 1a 19
> >> 0d 43 61 6e 61 6c 64 69
> >> 67 ....H...Canaldig
> >>> 0110: 69 74 61 61 6c 0a 53
> >> 70 6f 72 74 20 31 20 48
> >> 44 itaal.Sport 1 HD
> >>> 0120: f1 a3 19
> 67
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> ...g
> >>> PID: 17 (0x0011) [= assigned for:
> DVB
> >> Service Description Table (SDT), Bouquet
> Association Table
> >> (BAT)]
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 22 (0x16) [=
> advanced
> >> codec SD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "Film1.2" --
> Charset:
> >> Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 22 (0x16) [=
> advanced
> >> codec SD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "Film1.3" --
> Charset:
> >> Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 22 (0x16) [=
> advanced
> >> codec SD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "Film1 Action"
> --
> >> Charset: Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 22 (0x16) [=
> advanced
> >> codec SD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "Sport1" --
> Charset:
> >> Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 22 (0x16) [=
> advanced
> >> codec SD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "Sport1.2" --
> Charset:
> >> Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 22 (0x16) [=
> advanced
> >> codec SD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "tst2" --
> Charset:
> >> Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 25 (0x19) [=
> advanced
> >> codec HD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "NED3 HD" --
> Charset:
> >> Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 25 (0x19) [=
> advanced
> >> codec HD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "Film 1 HD" --
> >> Charset: Latin alphabet
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> service_type: 25 (0x19) [=
> advanced
> >> codec HD digital television service]
> >>>
> >> Service_name: "Sport 1 HD" --
> >> Charset: Latin alphabet
> >>
> >> Apparently only the three channels that are
> automatically
> >> detected use
> >> service type 0x19. The others use 0x16, which is
> not known
> >> in VDR.
> >>
> >> Please try this:
> >>
> >> --- sdt.c
> 2009/12/23
> >> 16:02:47 2.4
> >> +++ sdt.c
> 2010/05/16
> >> 14:23:21
> >> @@ -55,6 +55,7 @@
> >>
>
> >> case 0x02: // digital
> radio sound service
> >>
>
> >> case 0x04: // NVOD
> reference service
> >>
>
> >> case 0x05: // NVOD
> time-shifted service
> >> +
>
> >> case 0x16: // digital SD television
> >> service
> >>
>
> >> case 0x19: // digital HD
> television service
> >>
>
> >> {
> >>
>
> >> char
> >> NameBuf[Utf8BufSize(1024)];
> >>
> >>
> >> Klaus
> >>
> >>
> >>> --- Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx>
> >> schrieb am Fr, 14.5.2010:
> >>>> Von: Klaus Schmidinger <Klaus.Schmidinger@xxxxxxx>
> >>>> Betreff: Re: dvb-s2 transponder can
> be
> >> received but channels are not automatically found
> >>>> An: vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Datum: Freitag, 14. Mai, 2010 15:50 Uhr
> >>>> On 07.05.2010 09:45, Newsy Paper
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> hi!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I noticed a new vdr problem concerning
> only
> >> some of
> >>>> those dvb-s2 transponders.
> >>>>> If I create a new channel in channel
> list with
> >> these
> >>>> transponder datas and "add new channels"
> is
> >> activated in vdr
> >>>> settings nothing happens either. But when
> I set
> >> manually SID
> >>>> manually video + audio pids are found
> >> automatically but not
> >>>> the other channels on that transponders
> are added
> >>>> automatically.
> >>>>> One of these problem transponders is
> 12129 V
> >> 27500 5/6
> >>>> DVB-S2 on Astra 23.5°East.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm afriad I can't receive Astra
> 23.5°East.
> >>>> Are you sure that those transponders
> actually
> >> carry the
> >>>> necessary SI data
> >>>> to automatically find these channels?
> >>>>
> >>>> Klaus
>
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