I use XXV to edit the channels.conf. It gives you a very good GUI in your web browser, and you can easy edit and sort these fields in channels.conf: Position Name Transponder frequency Signal source Various parameters, depending on signal source Symbol rate Video PID (VPID) Audio PID (APID) Teletext PID (TPID) Conditional access (CA) Service ID (SID) Network ID (NID) Transport stream ID (TID) Radio ID (RID) More information here: http://xxv.berlios.de/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/ Bye Harald _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr