Klaus Schmidinger kirjoitti: > On 24.11.2009 22:38, Anssi Hannula wrote: > >> Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> >>> On 24.11.2009 19:22, Anssi Hannula wrote: >>> >>>> Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 24.11.2009 18:28, Jouni Karvo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jouni Karvo kirjoitti: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Rolf Ahrenberg kirjoitti: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Jouni Karvo wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> is there somewhere a patch that would remove the break when the >>>>>>>>> broadcaster uses "dynamic pids" (such as YLE). Now, when a programme >>>>>>>>> starts at YLE, they change the Audio PID number, leading to VDR >>>>>>>>> re-tuning or something, that leads to a 1-2s break in the show. There is >>>>>>>>> no change in frequency, so I don't see any reason why there is such a >>>>>>>>> break. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As a quick fix just disable the pid updates ("Channel update: no/names >>>>>>>> only"). Yle is always using the same pid numbers although they're >>>>>>>> switching them on and off, so you can easily fix these numbers in your >>>>>>>> channel.conf. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Tried this, but it seems it loses the subtitling PIDs. Is there a way >>>>>> to get both - subtitling and non-breaking TV viewing? >>>>>> >>>>> It might be interesting to learn why they do this "PID cycling" >>>>> in the first place. Have you ever tried contacting them and asking >>>>> why they do such a stupid thing? >>>>> >>>> Different programmes have a different number of languages, so the number >>>> of active pids changes. Isn't that correct behaviour? >>>> >>> Sure, but why "cycle" them through various values, and not use the same >>> ones for the same languages? >>> >> As far as I can see they keep them the same, and VDR retunes just >> because the number of tracks changes. >> >> >>> As long as the PID switch takes place outside a show, that's of course ok. >>> Switching them *inside* a show is IMHO not a good idea. >>> >> The change of active PIDs takes place when a show begins, causing 1-2s >> of stream to go missing due to the retune as Jouni described in the >> initial post. >> > > It sure wouldn't hurt if they changed the PIDs a little earlier. > Other channels do that. > > True. I don't know, however, if it is reasonable to request YLE to change the pids before the actual programme stream starts. It seems things look clearer. When the show starts, then within 1-2 seconds the break starts, then there is the break of 1-2 seconds, after that everything is smooth. The biggest actual annoyance is that nowadays the titles are often after the first scene, so there is a part of the actual show right in the beginning. It often happens that about 30 seconds of subtitling is lost at the beginning of the show; probably as it is sent during those precious first seconds. yours, Jouni _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr