Re: Choice of recording format

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On 12.01.2009 10:42, Magnus Hörlin wrote:
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>> jori.hamalainen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skickat: den 12 januari 2009 09:52
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>> Ämne: Re:  Choice of recording format
>>
>>> TS is what's broadcast, so every device that's able to play DVB
>> broadcasts
>>
>>> must be able to play TS. Therefore recording the TS "as is" (of course
>> only
>>> the PIDs belonging to one programme) makes the most sense.
>> I am hoping that recording takes all PIDs belonging to a program,
>> including
>> all private streams for all subtitles. And even without any plugin to
>> request
>> them. Later when you process the file with some other software, then
>> subtitles
>> or other sound tracks might be needed. Or they can be discarded on TS
>> editors
>> later. But you cannot generate them if you don't have them.
>>
>> I think removing 'not plugin requested PIDs' saves very little space on
>> disk.
>> And proportionally even less for HD recordings.
>>
>> For a hour HD programme (
>> HD H.264: ~5.5GB (@ 12Mbps)
>> AC3: ~170MB (@ 384kbps)
>> MPEG2 audio: ~100MB (@ 224kbps)
>> DVB subtitles: 50MB (just a guess 50kb per subtitle image * 1000 subtitles
>> per show)
>> TXT subtitles: 0.5MB (just a guess 0.5kB * 1000 subtitles per show)
>>
>> So I suggest on TS-format (at least make it setup-menu configurable):
>> - record all audio tracks
>> - record all dvb subtitles tracks
>> - record all txt subtitles tracks (might be handy on MKV & SRT-conversion)
>>   - I know Klaus' intention to convert TXT -> DVB subtitles just to store
>> one
>>     format on file at recording time? But I don't like that because it is
>> not
>>     recording the original stream.
>>
>> - Jori
> 
> Thanks Jori, I fully agree. Hope Klaus does too....

The TS version of VDR records exactly the same PIDs as the PES version did.

Klaus

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