Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Well, I like the idea of taking the plain VDR and a FF DVB card > and have it run "out of the box", without having to fiddle around > with any plugins ;-) This is not really a good point any more, since at least latest development 1.7.x builds wont work without a custom kernel and custom DVB drivers and headers. And if you really want to avoid the -P dvb, you could still add some auto-magical plugin load mechanism for it, or a way to optionally statically link certain plugins into the VDR binary. (hmm, sounds interesting.) > It's not like I'm generally against making dvbdevice.c a plugin, but > if it's needed in most cases, anyway, where's the point? > > Or do most implementations *not* use DVB devices? For me, only one of the three VDR systems I frequently use has real DVB devices. One is a streamdev/nfs client, and the third is a local disk playback VDR only. (that annoys me with "channel not available" messages. :) ) With unpatched 1.7.1, I would have to build custom kernels and unused drivers for each of them, while with a DVB plugin, VDR would not depend on special DVB devices at all. Of course this would also allow to keep an old DVB API plugin for those with no HD plans in the near future. Also, it would reduce the linux dependency of VDR. Or did someone ever do a BSD or Solaris port of VDR? Cheers, Udo _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr