On 10/07/08 02:18, Malcolm Caldwell wrote:> On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 11:11 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:>> On 10/06/08 11:06, Laz wrote:>>> On Monday 06 Oct 2008, Frank Scherthan wrote:>>>> Laz schrieb:>>>>> On Sunday 05 Oct 2008, Gavin Hamill wrote:>>>>>> On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 15:10 +0100, Dave P wrote:>>>>> On another Freeview specific note, I'd love to have my channels>>>>> renumbered to their "proper" Freeview numbers. At the moment, I have>>>>> to go through and move them about by hand every time something>>>>> changes! I don't think there is currently any support for assigning>>>>> channels a specific number within vdr (probably not much point with>>>>> gazillions of satellite channels but more useful with the handful of>>>>> terrestrial Freeview ones in the UK).>>>> man 5 vdr:>>>> A group delimiter can also be used to just set the next channel’s>>>> number, without an explicit delimiter text, as in>>>>>>>> :@201>>> That's what I mean by "doing it by hand"! My channels.conf is littered >>> with those!>>>>>> ;)>>>>>> Would be nice if each channel entry had a field for channel number >>> instead, especially when they helpfully decide to move a channel!>>>>>> It's also the way "real" set-top boxes do it. I think "scan" can output >>> the channel numbers to a vdr-readable channels.conf but I think that just >>> puts in a :@1, :@2, :@3, etc. every other line. Just doesn't seem neat to >>> me, especially as the channel numbers are broadcast.>>>>>> I did start looking at this a while back but never got very far: might >>> have another go...>> I don't think it makes any sense to put actual channel numbers into>> each channel's line in channels.conf. For one, what if different>> providers want to use the same channel numbers? And: what if channels>> are moved around, inserted or deleted?> > It might not make sense in your environment. It certainly doesn't - with several providers and mixed DVB-S and DVB-Tchannels the idea of each provider wanting to dictate channel numbers isjust not feasible. > In the UK and here in Australia there are fixed, advertised channel> numbers. Well, if you have only a single provider and/or transmission method, Ican see that you might identify a channel by its number. > It makes sense if something is advertised as being on channel 20, then> pressing '2' and then '0' should tune to that channel. "Makes sense"> means that "I can describe it to my wife".> >> The channel numbers are implicitly derived from the position of each>> channel in the channels.conf file. Offsets can be suggested with :@nnn>> lines, but are only hints and may be ignored if there are too many>> channels before them to actually implement the desired numbers.> > Maybe I should try to explain this to my wife instead? You can number your channels in whatever way you want, with the existingmeans implemented in VDR - it just doesn't happen automatically. So there'sno need to explain anythign to your wife, if you just sort your channelsthe right way ;-) Are these channel numbers broadcast in a way that's covered in theDVB SI standard? If so, I see no reason why VDR shouldn't (optionally)use them when sorting channels. But they sure have no place in channels.conf,in there I would still use :@nnn lines to set the offsets. Klaus _______________________________________________vdr mailing listvdr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
