Thank you Torgeir for you response. Now I know the correct terminology! Back to general comments. I have had a look at the xineliboutput source code, and it appears that 'centercutout' and 'pan&scan', features which I think are the ones I want, are at best work in progress: xine_frontend.c: around and after line 145: /* Pan&Scan */ case 5: { double aspect_diff /*= video_pixel_aspect - 1.0*/; /* TODO */ /* does not work (?) */ aspect_diff=(video_pixel_aspect*(double)video_width/(double)video_height) - 4.0 / 3.0; if ((aspect_diff < 0.05) && (aspect_diff > -0.05)) { result = (4.0/3.0 * (double)this->height/(double)this->width); /*LOGDBG("diff: %f", aspect_diff);*/ /*new_cropping = 1;*/ } else { result = (16.0/9.0 * (double)this->height/(double)this->width); } /*result = (4.0/3.0 * (double)this->height/(double)this->width);*/ break; } /* center cut-out */ case 6: { /*#warning center cut-out mode not implemented*/ break; 'TODO', 'does not work (?)' and 'not implemented' are the points of interest. Maybe time to contact the xineliboutput author for further info. One more remark, if as I believe from the comments in the code above, that the '16:9 crop to 4:3' behaviour is not implemented in xineliboutput, am I the only one suffering from the lack of this feature? Am I the only one still using a 4:3 TV? I don't think so, what do other people do when viewing 16:9 material on a 4:3 device, other than put up with the black bars? Regards, Ian. _______________________________________________ vdr mailing list vdr@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr