Hello vdr, Greetings! I am looking for a somewhat affordable(whatever that means :-) full featured DVB TV card since that is the only thing supported by vdr apparently. I hear they are above the 150$ range, it is very expensive for me. I want to be able to decode pay channels as well but apparently I can do that using a card reader that is not build into the TV card itself. Many thanks! regards, Girish -- Duty for duty's sake without hope for reward or fear of punishment