Hello, regarding http://de.kingofsat.net/hdtv.php there are some "free" hdtv channels in DVB-S MPEG-2 and also in DVB-S MPEG-4. I am specially interested in : Hotbird 6 (13.0E) - 10834.00 V - DVB-S - 27500 3/4 - NID: 176 - TID: 11600 - Txp: 116 - Beam / Ausleuchtzone: Europe - TPS Arte (France) MPEG-4 Is there any way to reccord/watch it from VDR (I use xine) ? I have both budget and FF cards in case that matter. Thank you very much, -- Gr?goire FAVRE http://gregoire.favre.googlepages.com