Kartsa wrote: > From: "Matthias Schniedermeyer" <ms@xxxxxxx> > >> Kartsa wrote: >> >>> I don't know about other countries but in finland often programs have >>> reruns within few days causing some autotimer to timer same event >>> twise. This is quite usual especially with series. >>> So I wonder if it would be a good idea or even feasible to have >>> weekday selection in autotimer setup? >> >> >> "Advanced" timer programming is the domain of Master-Timer. >> http://mt.citd.de > > I must have a look on this one. Thanks for the link. > >> One of it's many feature is to restrict timers to specific weekdays. >> >> Or, if the EPG-Data is good(tm) (meanes: has a meaningful subtitle, >> i.o.w. the title of the episode), Master-Timers "done"-feature removes >> any (Master-Timer-)timers that entered the "done"-list which are still >> programmed in VDR the next time master-timer is started. >> This makes sure that a specific episode is never recorded again(*). >> Great to record whole series, without recording an episode twice(*2), >> or recording the rerun if the first attempt failed. :-) >> >> I've recorded about 5 thousand(!) series and movies in 4 years. Workes >> great as long as the EPG-(or secondary-source-)data is good. :-) >> (Btw. I'd say that i'm a "heavy user". Converted into autotimers i >> would currently have about 450 autotimers). > > Too bad that in Finlad the episode names are not in epg data. Most often > even the information that it is a rerun is missing and actually epg data > is identical with the original aired program making it impossible to > know which is which. Normally they are aired on different weekdays but > even that is not always the case, only the time is different. So you > could say that epg data is poor. That's unfortunate. :-( No secondary-sources (e.g. Web-Sites) for the data? Btw. If a show is a "rerun" or not is a non-technical classification as far as i see it. (Technically only the absolut first time broadcast wouldn't be a rerun, which can be decadedes in the past for old series/movies.) So i haven't built a "is_rerun"-flag into Master-Timer for the "near in time rerun"s. If a TV-Stations useses different titles/subtitles (e.g. appends something to the title) for a rerun it would be a case for the EPG-Data-Fixer to make both entries equal. >> *: As long as the EPG-Data of immediate or later(i mean much later, >> like month/years later when the whole series reruns) reruns match with >> the already recorded one, if the EPG-data is garbage there is nothing >> Master-Timer could do. > > Does this mean that if the epg data is exactly the sama (as I mentionet) > it would not be recorded again? Not necessarily. a) Done is an optional feature, for which you have to include the "process_summary.pl" (this script goes through all "summary.vdr"-files if started without a commandline-parameter, or a specific recording if the directory is specified at the commandline, and enteres found entries into the done-file) as a cronjob or into your cutting-process(*) or whatever you see fit. To make "done" work. b) You can completyly switch it off in the Master-Timer configuration file or don't execute the process_summary.pl script. c) If you use the done-feature you can still disable "done"-processing on a per "torecord-definition" base (nodone=1) So it's up to you if Master-Timer behaves dumb or stupied. :-) >> *2: Personally i've only encountered a single series which has the >> same episode-title for 2 different episodes, luckily i realised that >> in time to remove the entry from the done-file. > > > I am afraid that we have such channels that uses the same epg data for > all the episodes :( > > - Kartsa *: My call to "process_summary.pl" is after a recording is cutted. After verifying that the file is OK i can run Master-Timer to remove eventual reruns of the show, or "undone" the recording if there was any error. (The success-rate is >90%, so "optimistically" doneing a recording makes less work than beeing pessimistic. As i personally run Master-Timer manually i don't risk removing reruns to early. As Fail-safe as possibel i.o.w. :-) ) You can even use the "done"-feature as a "soft"-blacklist. With the helper-script "donefromvdr.pl" you can enter an entry directly from VDR-timerlist into the "done"-file. After running Master-Timer the timers are than removed from VDR. Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous.
