Re: [PATCH 1/1] fstrim: add random delay to systemd timer

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On Monday 17 December 2018, Christian Hesse wrote:
> Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@xxxxxx> on Mon, 2018/12/17 21:45:
> > On Monday 17 December 2018, Christian Hesse wrote:
> > > The fstrim timer tends to fire simultaneously with other timers
> > > like updatedb. As fstrim is not time criticaly let's add a random
> > > delay of up to an hour.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Christian Hesse <mail@xxxxxxxx>
> > > ---
> > >  sys-utils/fstrim.timer | 1 +
> > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/sys-utils/fstrim.timer b/sys-utils/fstrim.timer
> > > index 3a3762d5c..dd3328e2a 100644
> > > --- a/sys-utils/fstrim.timer
> > > +++ b/sys-utils/fstrim.timer
> > > @@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ Documentation=man:fstrim
> > >  [Timer]
> > >  OnCalendar=weekly
> > >  AccuracySec=1h
> > > +RandomizedDelaySec=1h
> >
> > Looks like it could still run simultaneously with other timers at
> > random times. So this does not seem to be a real fix for the
> > problem described in your commit message.
> >
> > You may look at /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} if you want
> > to run such jobs one after the other.
>
> There's no harm when jobs run simultaneously, other than bad user
> experience: Consider a user stating his notebook, workstation,
> whatever on a Monday morning and system feels bad under high load.
> This can be avoided (most of the time) with just a single line in the
> timer. I think it is worth it.

Hm, on my file server updatedb needs about 30 minutes. A random delay of 
1 hour means that both jobs will still run simultaneously in 50% of the 
cases.

> Anyway... Feel free to deny committing the patch. For now I added a
> configuration snipped on my system.

Nevermind, I just wanted to rant again about why we are maintaining this 
timer files at all. IMO the distros and/or admins should configure such 
tasks *properly* according their needs. UL upstream is IMHO the wrong 
place.

BTW note that RandomizedDelaySec will produce an annoying warning on 
sytstems where systemd is not up-to date. And to rant again, IMO it's 
questionable whether we should bother users with such warnings or why 
one should update the whole systemd monstrum just to achieve such 
simple improvement which was solved already by cron 30 years ago in a 
better way ;)

cu,
Rudi



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