Karel, If you'd like --gregorian and --julian to mean exclusively using their respective calendar system, then we could: * change --iso to --gregorian and let the man page explain that it is proleptic. * depreciate --julian in favor of --ordinal (--doy or --day-of-year). IMO, this should be done regardless. * create a private --roma that is the complement to --gregorian; then after an appropriate mourning period change it to --julian and make it public. RFC: Can/should the new cal(1) options have short versions? >From Documentation/howto-contribute.txt: "... it is not recommended to add short command line options [to POSIX utils] before they are part of the standard." But most of cal(1)'s options already have short versions and the standard says there are no options for cal(1). If we use my above idea then --julian will have -j, so IMO --gregorian should have -g. It would also be nice for --ordinal to have -o. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html