On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:39:32AM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: > more(1) may attempt to call tsetattr(3) on stderr even if its process is > not in a process group with a controlling terminal. As a result, > SIGTTOU will be generated, suspending the process. Frankly, all the code: tcgetattr(fileno(stderr), &otty); savetty0 = otty; slow_tty = cfgetispeed(&otty) < B1200; hardtabs = (otty.c_oflag & TABDLY) != XTABS; seems strange, it does not care if the tcgetattr() has been successful on stderr, etc. ls | more 2> /dev/null behaves differently than without stderr redirection. All the code is pretty mess (e.g. slow_tty is nowhere used, etc.). Sami has tried to cleanup the code, but not sure about status of this project (https://github.com/kerolasa/lelux-utiliteetit/commits/more3). Karel -- Karel Zak <kzak@xxxxxxxxxx> http://karelzak.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html