On 03 Apr 2015 10:52, Karel Zak wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:15:22PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 02 Apr 2015 21:15, Karel Zak wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 12:19:52PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > On 02 Apr 2015 10:20, Karel Zak wrote: > > > > > If I good remember then the reason is that the helpers does not have > > > > > to be installed in standard PATH. Well, you're author of this thing > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > i wrote the code to make it a configure option, but the actual behavior predates > > > > me. i'm interested more in the behavior, not the exact configure option. > > > > > > So, the basis question is if we really need to support non-standard > > > paths for the helpers. IMHO it's unnecessary legacy and I don't see a > > > problem to drop this feature and require $PATH, and for critical > > > things like fsck fallback to /sbin if $PATH is undefined. > > > > the reason for adding that configure option was to support packages that install > > both into /bin and /usr/bin. i understand some distros will override those > > I have talked about crazy things like /sbin/fs.d or /sbin/fs. The standard > paths like [/usr]/bin, [/usr]/sbin are not problem. i have no problem with punting fd.d & fs subdirs. i don't recall ever seeing a Linux system use them, although i've only been running things since the 2.4 days, so maybe i'm not old enough. > > settings of upstream packages, but Gentoo has opted not to since there's no > > reason at all to force them all into /sbin (and even existing tools in /sbin are > > pretty pointless). although it mattered more when the code was only searching > > that list and not $PATH at all. > > > > my preference would be just to do execvp() and be done so we can stop these > > distro bikesheddings (/bin & /usr-merge and such). > > Yes, I thought about it too... just move the problem with PATH to libc ;-) > > For example mkfs already uses execvp(), I guess we can do the same in > fsck. For mount(8) it would be better to follow the current behaviour, > but remove nonsenses from FS_SEARCH_PATH (and rename to LIBMOUNT_HELPERS_PATH). > > Volunteers? ;-) i'll take a stab at mkfs first -mike
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