On 03/16/2015 06:33 AM, Karel Zak wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 04:26:45PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 20:18, J William Piggott wrote: >>> Replace references to the depreciated ntpdate with sntp. >> >> s/depreciated/deprecated/ >> >>> -.BR \%ntpdate\ \-q " , or " \%date\ \-Ins >>> +.BR \%sntp ", or " \%date\ \-Ins >> >> Hmm, maybe it's a bit to early to delete the mention of ntpdate? >> My fairly recent Linux Mint doesn't have sntp yet. Maybe add >> sntp to the list instead of replacing ntpdate? > > Good point, it would be better to use something like "ntpdate or more > recent sntp". No, it is not a good point. I assume he means *too* early, that's the funniest thing I've heard all day. No wait, "doesn't have sntp yet", that's the funniest thing I've heard all day. The sntp client and ntpdate are both from the same project and approximately the same age. Nobody was interested in maintaining ntpdate so it *depreciated* over many years before being officially *deprecated* by the project. The sntp client is in the ntp package for Mint/Debian/Ubuntu. Try opening a terminal and typing 'sntp' or 'man sntp'. Before I added ntpdate two months ago, the hwclock man-page had gone 20 years without it. Now there's concern over removing it? >From the ntpdate man-page: Disclaimer: This program has known bugs and deficiencies and nobody has volunteered to fix them in a long time. The good news is the functionality originally intended for this program is available in the ntpd and sntp programs. See the [2]Deprecating ntpdate topic in the NTP Support wiki for a thorough discussion and analysis of the issues. See the -q command line option in the [3]ntpd - Network Time Protocol (NTP) daemon page and/or the [4]sntp - Simple Network Time Protocol (SNTP) Client page. After a suitable period of mourning, the ntpdate program will be retired from this distribution. > > Karel > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html