On 8 January 2014 09:21, Karel Zak <kzak@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 01:44:07PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Tuesday 07 January 2014 05:19:35 Karel Zak wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 10:55:35AM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> > > >> We already have such a cyclic dependency, since udevd depends on >> > > >> libblkid+libuuid, and findmnt (from util-linux) depends on libudev. >> > > >> >> > > > .. and nobody complains, good point :-) Thanks! >> > > > >> > > > Karel >> > > >> > > Actually, now that I know you care about these things, I am complaining. >> > > >> > :-))) >> > : >> > > It has caused me (minor) trouble once already. >> > >> > It's possible (first time) to compile util-linux without libudev, >> > compile systemd/udevd and then again recompile util-linux with >> > libudev. >> > >> > IMHO libudev is very useful for findmnt and lsblk to get info about >> > devices. >> > >> > Note that uuidd is absolutely unnecessary if you don't have huge SAP >> > installation (-- it means unnecessary for 99% of the all Linux users). >> >> on a semi-related matter, it'd be nice if we could easily build util-linux >> such that we only get the libraries. the plethora of configure flags that >> control utils is a nightmare to manage, and i'm not sure there's a flag for >> every utility (i haven't checked myself, so i could easily be wrong). > > not yet ;-) > >> if that were in play, the circular loop would be easy to address -- build >> util-linux once just for its libs, then udev/systemd, then util-linux again. > > Yep, I know about the pain... I guess it would be enough to have > something like > > ./configure --disable-all-builds --enable-libblkid > > where --enable/disable-all-builds controls the default of the > enable_<name>= variables (the current default is usually "check") > in configure. > > I'll try to implement it later (I'm working on new cfdisk now) -- or > maybe some volunteer...? :-) I could try to fiddle around with autotools in next days/weeks. The one thing I am thinking to change immediately is 's/--disable-all-builds/--enable-minimal/'. Unfortunately, due I'm just a random contributor without distribution packaging experience at all I will need few hints from real pros. Most important question being what the minimal should include? I did think that option could be --enable-libaries-only, but is that too minimal to be practical? p.s. Karel, the consider the cal(1) enhancements being temporarily postponed. Well, they weren't import anyway, so IMHO not a big loss. -- Sami Kerola http://www.iki.fi/kerolasa/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html