On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:29:28AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 12 January 2013 00:13:12 Phillip Susi wrote: > > On 01/11/2013 11:52 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > >> but my point was that what you are looking for is umount -f, not > > >> umount -l. > > > > > > and my point is that `umount -f` doesn't always work which means > > > `umount -l` is sometimes the only way to remove a mount point. an > > > unresponsive remote or something is holding open a reference (which > > > doesn't show up in `lsof -n`). > > > > Right. Forced unmounts aren't really implemented. They need to be. > > It isn't losetup that needs to be forcibly detached, but the filesystem. > > would be nice if userland had visibility into all these handles that the > kernel has opened. for example, with losetup, i think the only way is to > query the loop devices directly or sysfs ? might be handy to at least teach > lsof to peek in there, but still sucks we have to do it subsystem by > subsystem. That's my wish to have in lsblk output a column with handlers counter that kernel has open for the device. Unfortunately this info is not exported by sysfs. Karel -- Karel Zak <kzak@xxxxxxxxxx> http://karelzak.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html