Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add functions to the fsck wrapper to improve standalone operation.

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On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 18:42 +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:06:35PM +0000, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> > On 02/15/2012 03:09 PM, Frank Mayhar wrote:
> > > 2012/2/15 Pádraig Brady <P@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > >> On 02/07/2012 09:05 PM, Frank Mayhar wrote:
> > >>> This set of patches adds functions that help improve fsck operation in
> > >>> large installations and when running in unattended or headless mode.  It
> > >>> adds support for reporting rusage statistics for the individual fsck
> > >>> runs, for capturing fsck output, for killing fsck runs that take too
> > >>> long and for running scripts when each fsck completes.
> > >>>
> > >>> We're currently using these functions to improve our fsck monitoring
> > >>> capability and to replace some unwieldy and hard-to-maintain shell
> > >>> scripts.
> > >>
> > >> Couldn't you do this with separate fsck command runs,
> > >> and use standard system utils?
> > > 
> > > Yes, of course.  That's where the "unwieldy and hard-to-maintain shell
> > > scripts" came in.  Putting the functions in the wrapper itself, on the
> > > other hand, means the scripts don't have to reimplement functions that
> > > already exist there (like parallelizing the fsck runs or tracking exit
> 
>  BTW, the latest fsck supports new -l option (lock disk) for parallel
>  fsck processes. So you can start arbitrary number of
> 
>     fsck -l /dev/xxx
> 
>  without care about performance. We use it for systems with systemd
>  where fsck is executed per device (fstab entry).
> 
>  If you want to use the same thing for the classic init scripts then 
>  you can use something like
> 
>     for x in $(findmnt --fstab -n -o SOURCE); do
>         fsck -l $x &< /var/log/fsck-$x &
>     done
> 
>  rather tan fsck -A. Add some extra checks (completion scripts) to this
>  for() should be pretty simple.

I have to disagree with Pádraig's assertion that the functions are
supported by "quite simple" shell scripting.  As it turned out, doing
everything we needed involved a script that was pretty long and
involved.  (I wish I could share the script with you; it's pretty
impressive, actually, in a grim and painful kind of way, and a real pain
to maintain.)  In particular, the short loop you show here and that
Pádraig used was just not even close to being sufficient.

Further, those of us that are stuck using somewhat older distributions
don't have some of the newer tools such as findmnt and timeout.

> > > status), eliminates some external dependencies and makes the process
> > > quite a bit less fragile.
> > 
> > OK, thanks for the clarification.
> > 
> > It seems to me that these functions are supported
> > by quite simple shell scripting as I demonstrated.
> 
>  I have no problem with proposed -r option (to report memory and
>  runtime statistics) and -O option to force-kill fscks that run too
>  long.
> 
>  ... but I'm still not sure if we really need the completion script.

We have to do special stuff if an fsck fails for a particular file
system.  Without running each fsck individually (something I want to
avoid for a number of reasons), how do you propose we do that "special
stuff" without some command or script that is run by fsck when an
individual check fails?  In other words, what do you propose I use
instead of a completion script if I want to use the existing functions
of fsck for everything else?

I'm not trying to be rude, by the way (just in case this is coming off
that way), I'm just trying to point out that in our case we really need
the completion script and I would bet that there are others out there
that would find it very useful as well.
-- 
Frank Mayhar
fmayhar@xxxxxxxxxx

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