Hi I'm currently determining how i can integrate dm-crypt devices cleanly with autofs (via a "ghostable" indirect-map, so nothing to exec there). What would be ideal is setting up the dm-crypt at mount-time and also to do the teardown immediately after umount. The first thing should be quite easy to do, even without the help of mount, and could be e.g. implemented via a udev-script. So that after pluging in a USB-disc the corrosponding dm-crypt device can be setup, which afterwards would be automountable. Alternativly i could use an 'executable' map-type on the autofs-site, but i don't want to do that because that can't "ghost" (Ghosting shows all possible directories, which make "Tab completion" and browsing though a file-dialog possible (for currently NOT mounted sub-directories in an indirect-map)). But as far as i can tell that is also only a half-solution, because i there is nothing executed at umount-time, so automatic teardown still wouldn't work. For the umount thing, i think i could use inotify and wait for the "umount"-event as inotify fortunately doesn't prevent umount, but that works a little against the spirit of autofs, as it only would work once (at least in the case of setup by udev). All "solutions" taste a little strange for me, the udev-solution mainly because i would have a dm-crypt "laying" around which may or may not be used and the automatic tear-down after umount because what if it just timed out and i want it to use again would only work with an exec-type map where i could to the setup. Only doing the teardown of the dm-crypt after the device is unplugged does not sound right to me either, because i don't know if that is safe. My question if unplugging a device, with a dm-crypt device in existence, is safe was met with silence. All crutches would not be needed if there was a "premount" and "postumount" option/command in mount that could do something "just before mount" and "just after umount". Either "per mount" or "always". I guess the easiest solution would be if mount would check for /sbin/mount.premount and execute that before the mount took place, with all the commandline parameters passed to the program and the same after umount with /sbin/mount.postumount or something like that. This solution would also make for e.g. "loop-aes" more easily usable, currently one has to use a patched version of mount/losetup. With a premount/postumount-command/option it would be possible to use an unpatched mount-binary and do the loop-aes setup/teardown "somewhere else", which would at least alleviate the need for a patched mount command for the usecases where there is no interactivity (e.g. with a "cleartextkey" or a gpg-key when a usable gpg-agent is running). Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html