Re: [RFC] fallocate utility

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Pádraig Brady wrote:
> Eric Sandeen wrote:

...

>> TBH I think "truncate --allocate" sounds a little odd.  (Now that I
>> think back, I think I mentioned this before).  truncate(1) and
>> truncate(2) specifically refer to i_size, which to fs people like me,
>> has nothing to do with the actual blocks allocated to a file.
> 
> Well truncate(2) does, but I think truncate(1) is higher level
> and is used to "set the size of a file". 

But "size of a file" in the truncate sense only means "set the EOF offset."

"size of the file" in the truncate sense doesn't imply blocks or disk
space - this is what allocation does.  (blocks * blocksize) can be more
than, less than, or same as the "size" (max offset) of the file, even
after you truncate up or down.

and indeed,

# truncate --size 1k blah

does just

open("blah", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_NONBLOCK, 0666) = 3
ftruncate(3, 1024)                      = 0

truncate(1) is just a handy userspace interface to truncate(2).  Making
it do anything else is just confusing well-defined interfaces &
semantics, imho.

I guess I don't -really- care if "truncate" grows an "--allocate"
option, but I'd still like to see a nice "fallocate" in util-linux-ng ;)

Thanks,
-Eric

> In that context an
> --allocate option seems to fit I think. Also truncate(2) is
> required to shrink an fallocated file.
> 
> cheers,
> Pádraig.

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