On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 08:43:20PM -0700, Bela Lubkin wrote: > Bryan> I think Hwclock should be distributed through a project of its own and > Bryan> repackaged directly into Linux distributions like thousands of other > Bryan> packages including util-linux(-ng). I don't so ;-) The util-linux-ng project is open for arbitrary sane patches -- everyone is welcome, including Bryan. I don't think that I have a problem to collaborate with other people. We already have a community around util-linux-ng (including RTC kernel developers). We are ready to maintain and improve hwclock(8), do you want to help us? Why do you need to maintain your hwclock separately? I don't see a real technical reason. > 4) modify util-linux-ng packaging to _by default_ omit hwclock, while Why? Where is a group of people who need the change? The freedom of choice between util-linux and Bryan's hwclock(8) exists for more than 7 years. The reality is that all mainstream Linux distributions *successfully* use util-linux(-ng) hwclock. BTW, I see a completely different trend in Linux distributions -- consolidation -- bigger, community driven and well maintained groups of packages/utils rather than small one-man projects. IMHO --disable-hwclock makes more sense for the minority of Linux users who don't want (or cannot -- e.g. s390) use hwclock(8). Again, your patches are welcomed. Karel -- Karel Zak <kzak@xxxxxxxxxx> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe util-linux-ng" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html