On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 10:44:56AM -0400, Keith Hanlan wrote:
> Karel Zak wrote:
>> On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 05:47:27PM -0400, Keith Hanlan wrote:
>>
>>> I've long wished for a version of newgrp that accepted the "-c <command>"
>>> option in the same manner as "su".
>>>
>>> Perhaps I'm missing some security implication here but I've always been
>>> puzzled by the absence of this seemingly obvious facility.
>>>
>>
>> Do you really need to use newgrp(1) from util-linux?
>>
>> The implementation from shadow-utils supports "sg" alias and the
>> option "-c".
>>
>> sg <groupname> -c <command>
>>
> Thank you Karel. I've been missing that utility for years. I have to
> question why it's a separate utility though. It seems to me that the
> additional functionality would make a natural extension to newgrp. I also
> don't understand why newgrp is not part of core-utils, especially given
> that "su" is. It seems a shame to restrict sg to Linux. Adding to the
> confusion, I've just noticed that shadow-utils includes its own newgrp
> command and sg is simply a link to newgrp. In other words, do you really
> need to include newgrp with util-linux? Perhaps you could simply deprecate
> it and the distributions could start picking up the more capable version
> via shaadow-utils.
I think many distributions already use login utils stuff from shadow-utils.
BTW, see the file util-linux-ng/DEPRECATED:
What: newgrp(1)
When: undefined yet
Why: deprecated in favor of newgrp from shadow-utils
but... I think we will maintain login-utils/ in util-linux-ng for
really long time, because it seems than some people still use it. We
shouldn't forget that Linux is not only mainstream distributions
(like Suse, Fedora, Debina, Gentoo, ...).
Karel
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