The adoption of all these is worrisome.
I wonder about the following: If we wanted a package that includes all
dependencies, why not provide a tarball with all dependencies? Then, I can
decide where to unpack it and set the library paths for example through a
config script. This is already done for many applications.
Gianluca
On Thu, 27 Feb 2025, dep via tde-users wrote:
said Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users:
| My understanding from reading your replies is that snap/flatpak/appimage
| all consist in images that get mounted through loopback devices, right?
| Once mounted, can you look at individual files in the images, or is it
| like a black box?
|
| I also read that snap makes booting slower and snapd adds load on the
| CPU (either when a snap package is running or always). There is also the
| issue that updates happen automatically and cannot be controlled by the
| user.
|
| It seems that I cannot install snappy on openSUSE Leap 15.4 since it is
| no longer available in this (no longer officially supported)
| distribution, but only on Leap 15.5 and above. But I don't think I would
| do it otherwise since I have an alternative how to run skype if I need
| to.
Snap is an Ubuntu project and could well be spyware. The Snap technology is
NOT open source. It is controlled by Canmonical, who used to be beloved
(as was Google, once). It is tied to AppArmor and of course systemd. It is
dangerous, imho.
Flatpak is a little -- but only a little -- less ominous.
AppImage is open source and GPL. Each app brings everything it needs, so it
takes up substantial storage. It appears to be the safest of the three.
Like anything, it could be abused, but the likelihood of offending
packages being caught is greater, probably than Flatpak and certainly than
Snap. AppImages come as one executable file, so looking inside best I can
tell.
The adoption of all these is worrisome. That's why I mentioned and was
troubled by such applications as Krita being available for Linux from the
site only as an appimage.
I believe based on some research that only Snap runs a daemon.
I am so glad I shitcanned Ubuntu for Debian.
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