Re: Trying to install TDE on a (relatively) old Debian (9.13)

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On Sunday 24 of November 2024 07:04:02 Andrew Randrianasulu via tde-users 
wrote:
> вс, 24 нояб. 2024 г., 05:54 Slávek Banko via tde-users <
>
> users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > On Sunday 24 of November 2024 00:33:52 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
> > > > I write nothing to TGW right now since there lie tens my previous
> > > > patches!
> > >
> > > There are a lot of patches (PRs) in the queue there. No one
> > > complains, except you. It is your free choice. I personally see it
> > > as symbiosis. And at some point of time someone picks up the patch
> > > works it out and it either accepted or rejected.
> >
> > There were situations where thorough research clearly showed that the
> > proposed patch did not solve the cause of the problem, but one
> > specific consequence - only hides the real cause of the problem. While
> > the other potential consequences would remain unresolved and would
> > probably wait for the next hack, which would again solve the
> > individual consequences, not the cause. While the author fundamentally
> > refused any cooperation in finding a real cause. As a result, real
> > repairs of the causes of the problems were merged instead of the
> > proposed hack.
>
> To be honest I (as non-developer who somewhat forced to be) tend to see
> things more from "forever novice" perspective: TDE is big codebase, and
> assuming someone can jump right in and prepare professional quality
> solution you simply can merge ... is a bit  unrealistic?
>
> yes, people might be uncomfortable to extreme if you ask them to do
> professional analysis even without telling them *how* it done (assuming
> here they, like you, know it by heart).
>
> I guess it hurts both ways .....
>

Yes, it is a large volume of code and it can be difficult to get a thorough 
overview. But yes, even without obtaining a thorough overview, someone can 
do a good finding of a specific bug and prepare a good fix. For example, 
thanks to backtrace from the grash. And there is no problem to accept and 
merge a good patch from anyone.

Likewise, there is no problem, if someone suggests a patch, we give him 
comments that there is a need for some modifications and thanks to the 
mutual cooperation between the author and the revising after a while we 
move to a good patch, which we then like to merge. This is then beneficial 
for both sides - the author gets feedback and will gain better overview 
and experience, the project will gain repair and improvements.

However, when someone gives a patch that, for example, removes a line with 
a call to release memory, at first glance it looks like an incorrect 
solution. When the author on the comment: "This looks like this will 
require a more thorough examination to solve the real cause of the 
problem," he responds by calling: "No, it works for me, I will not do 
anything else! You have to merge it as I did it!”, that's a problem. When, 
after some time and thorough examination, it confirms that the problem was 
elsewhere and the solution was different, but the author still shouts: "My 
fix was correct! You should have merge it as I did it!", this is indeed a 
problem to try to cooperate with such an author.

Cheers
Slávek
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