Re: Trying to install TDE on a (relatively) old Debian (9.13)

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On Sereda 20 Lystopad 7532 13:42:20 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
> Anno domini 2024 Wed, 20 Nov 12:40:33 +0200
>
>  Roman Savochenko via tde-users scripsit:
> > On Sereda 20 Lystopad 7532 09:26:14 Andrew Randrianasulu wrote:
> > > ср, 20 нояб. 2024 г., 09:21 Roman Savochenko via tde-users <
> > >
> > > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > On Sereda 20 Lystopad 7532 01:43:47 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
> > > > > Roman Savochenko via tde-users wrote:
> > > > > > I know that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I don't know. I would just use the default options. I would
> > > > > also
> > > >
> > > > not
> > > >
> > > > > use /media, because media is used by the system to automatically
> > > > > mount devices (I guess it is true for udisks2).
> > > >
> > > > There is no problem with options here, since they are accepted
> > > > correctly, there is a problem with
> > > > missing options to control user of the mounted disk folder. And that
> > > > missing is not the problem
> > > > also of tdestoragedevice.cpp in processing the mounting options, due
> > > > to udisks doesn't allow
> > > > neither user, owner, uid or mask options.
> > > >
> > > > > My understanding of your problem is that you create an entry in
> > > > > fstab and use udisks in the same time. The entry in fstab causes
> > > > > TDE to read this entry and omit udisks. Udisks does not need an
> > > > > entry in fstab anyway. So
> > > >
> > > > it
> > > >
> > > > > looks to me TDE has the correct precedence and this must be right.
> > > >
> > > > udisks can use /etc/fstab options to customize own behaviour and that
> > > > is a single solution for FD
> > > > without fixing udisks itself. And most solutions in Internet about
> > > > treating that behaviour of
> > > > udisks mean same appending an entry for FD to /etc/fstab, and TDE
> > > > here tricks you starting use
> > > > mount directly!
> > > >
> > > > udisks2 also can use /etc/fstab, and mediamanager.cpp wrongly
> > > > overrides this feature!!!
> > >
> > > In this case, I hope just one additional checkbox "prefer udisk(2) over
> > > fstab" will cover this use case?
> >
> > I think for that just can be used the present CheckBox "Use default mount
> > option", which means as force using udisks at TRUE, with this default
> > parameters in /etc/fstab at presence, and use custom parameters from that
> > dialogue at FALSE. Also with overriding by direct mount at an entry
> > presence, with hidding the dialogue parameters as nonsenses and/or
> > writing here about taking from /etc/fstab by mount.
>
> Investing manpower into a problem that may for some users exist on ancient
> hardware is not a sane way to do when manpower is limited. If said users
> think it's worth their time then they should just make the changes and
> submit a patch. That said, I just found a single 3.5" floppy disk in the
> stack of archived software - needless to say that the last floppy drive
> left over 20 jears ago. So if anybody needs it for the ancient floppy
> drives just drop me note.

That is not about "manpower", the first, but about limiting udisks features and without proper 
informing in dialogues about used mounting parameters and mechanisms. And to add that, I need up to 
one hour, but prove that is a problem, it seems there will be one day and more.

The second, that is about positioning TDE as "with a primary goal of retaining the function and form 
of traditional desktop computers.", which means of the software working on "traditional" HW where 
this software appeared, but of course the "two standards way" brought KDE3 to breaking such 
possibility by cmake, tqtinterface and including new code with anchoring it to new interfaces 
without saving the old compatibility, so for Debian 7 the last is 14.0.10, for Debian 8 is 14.0.13, 
for Debian 9 is 14.1.0. That is, for new versions we must start to throw out the old HW also as for 
MancurtoScoft (MS)! The authoritarian development conception-process causes to I am patching this 
only for myself (and my users), also as CD-RW icons, playing DVD in Kaffeine and so on, after 
breaking those by the "local authority".

And the third, the FDC controllers were still appeared on MB 2010 year old! :)
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