Please pardon the top post; away from good machines. Have you tried a different WM, say sddm? Quick install/uninstall, and would ket you narrow down the culprit. dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/ -------- Original Message -------- On 9/23/24 23:45, Felix Miata via tde-users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > # tail of journal > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting User Login Management... > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd-logind[2198]: Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd-logind[2198]: Failed to fully start up daemon: No such file or directory > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to start User Login Management. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: dbus.socket: Start request repeated too quickly. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: dbus.socket: Failed with result 'start-limit-hit'. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to listen on D-Bus System Message Bus Socket. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting Load Kernel Module drm... > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: modprobe@drm.service: Deactivated successfully. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Finished Load Kernel Module drm. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Start request repeated too quickly. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to start User Login Management. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 1166 (tdecryptocardwa) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 1175 (dcopserver) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 2090 (dcopserver) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting X Display Manager... > Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: /etc/vconsole.conf available > Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: KEYMAP: us > Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: Command: localectl set-keymap us > Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: I: Using systemd /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map mapping > Sep 23 23:27:51 localectl[2215]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory > Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2204]: Starting service tdm > Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Started X Display Manager. > Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_systemd(xdm:session): Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory > Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0) > Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session closed for user root > Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... > Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully. > Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: Finished Cleanup of Temporary Directories. > Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dclean.service.mount: Deactivated successfully. > Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_systemd(xdm:session): Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory > Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0) > Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session closed for user root > # rpm -qa | grep pam | sort > pam-1.6.1-4.1.x86_64 > pam-config-2.11+git.20240911-1.1.x86_64 > pam-extra-1.6.1-4.1.x86_64 > pam-manpages-1.6.1-4.1.noarch > pam_pwquality-1.4.5-2.3.x86_64 > yast2-pam-5.0.0-1.4.noarch > # > TDM works fine, except if I want to start a login session from it. This is a > freshly resurrected SSD in a PC whose motherboard died in August two years ago. > I stumbled onto a free motherboard replacement suited to the RAM, CPU, cooler, > etc. and got it going today. I managed to upgrade TW from 20220807 to 20240922 > without any significant obstacles, until trying to login to any of Plasma, TDE, > or IceWM from TDM. Failsafe does start a session with an Xterm, from which > starttde opens a normally functioning TDE desktop. > > Any ideas or suggestions whether this could be a TW problem or a TDM problem, > or how to fix it? > -- > Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, > based on faith, not based on science. > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx