> > It would be good if we can get something like this set up; and a learning > > experience, too, for those of us who don't use encryption for our emails. > > It's also an additional barrier for anyone attempting to join the list. > And this list is the main help channel for TDE, so it behooves us to > keep it as barrier-free as possible. > > E. Liddell On this point, I am of two minds. True enough, we ought to keep the mailing list free of barriers to newbies, and a few years ago I would have been among those excluded; on the other hand, it seems inevitable that most email providers, or corporate emails, or mailing lists, or private individuals, will *all* have to make similar changes sometime in the near future. I don't mean that we ought to force members of the list to use encryption; it's not one of those "if you plan to live another 10 years" arguments. But either email* will be transformed into some kind of total-encryption rule, or people will find other, more secure and private, ways to communicate. Now that the cat is out of the bag (about surveillance, blocking, censorship, etc.), people have started to demand more protections, respect for their privacy, and so on. If the public were still ignorant of the degree of snooping by governments and corporations, then maybe things could continue as they were; but either everything becomes encrypted, or people will just stop playing along and pretending that it's okay. If nothing else, we ought to consider taking intermediate steps (but then, there is no "sort-of encryption"!), or formulate some kind of plan, to get from here to there. Otherwise, consider the alternative: that we are always at the mercy of corporations or governments who may not have our best interests in mind. There are providers (such as ProtonMail?) where encryption is automatic, and end-to-end, and the users only need to set it up, but after that they just send and receive emails as usual. That would be ideal, since it wouldn't be too daunting for inexperienced users. Not so long ago, I considered buying my own server. (There is some brand by name of Helm that sounded good.) That way I could be my own host, and not have to worry about keeping logs and all that other stuff, and if anybody interfered, I could just say no. But it seemed like too much work for myself alone. I also considered setting up some kind of group, so that we might share costs and maintenance and admin duties, but again this would require more use of email in order to justify the expense and work. So while these two extremes (no encryption or total encryption) may look irreconcilable, I believe that we will all eventually move into a totally-encrypted future, because DUH, everybody knows why. Bill P.S. *and probably the whole Internet, and any other kind of digital activities, including "smart" devices in the home, etc. ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
