Re: Konqueror & FAT32

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Hi all!

Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
 BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
> > On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > > Hi all!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file
> > > > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the
> > > > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not
> > > > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > > > deletes the file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > > > >
> > > > > Nik
> > > >
> > > > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > > > Everything works the same as before.
> > > >
> > > > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the 
> fat32
> > > > filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards:
> > > > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the
> > > > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such 
> as
> > > > your
> > >
> > > other
> > >
> > > > hard drives?
> > > >
> > > > You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be
> > > > set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing
> > > > that file.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > > ____________________________________________________
> > >
> > > I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully
> > > that's fading)
> > >
> > > Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general.
> > > That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a
> > > problem after that.
> > >
> > > NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me
> > > much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
> > >
> > > Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your
> > > user just in case.
> > >
> > > Kate
> > 
> > Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do 
> not 
> > read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to be 
> > used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or 
> > circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on 
> > [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is 
> read 
> > by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not. 
> > 
> > 'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to 
> format 
> > it to a Linux filesystem. 
> > 
> > :-/
> > 
> > Bill
> You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on 
> windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does 
> a "clean" format with no empty  spaces or oddities.
> 
> Kate
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Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).

I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem specific. File creation works without problems.

What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I press "F5".

Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.

Nik


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