On Monday 07 September 2020 17:05:37 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote: > On Tuesday 08 of September 2020 00:45:27 Steven D'Aprano via tde-users > > wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 02:46:58PM -0700, William Morder via tde-users > > wrote: > > > So the short version is: only hit reply if you intend to keep the > > > topic within the thread. > > > > > > If we go off-topic, then we ought to create a brand-new email, not > > > just hit replay; otherwise, we drag email addresses and related > > > threads upon threads in, and we end up with 293 comments (I hear, but > > > haven't seen them myself). > > > > How is that possible? If you change the subject line of an email, how > > does that cause rejected emails to suddenly be re-sent (as you say > > happened to you). > > > > Where are these 293 comments being dragged in from? > > > > It is not practical to demand that subject lines never be changed. > > Different mailers have different conventions for whether they use "Re" > > or something else when replying, and sometimes due to topic drift the > > right thing to do is to change the subject line. For example, adding > > "SOLVED" to a problem once it is solved. > > > > We should start a new thread for entirely unrelated and new topics, but > > we should rename a sub-thread once it has drifted away from the original > > topic. For example: > > > > TDE is awesome > > +-- Re: TDE is awesome > > +-- Re: TDE is awesome > > > > | +-- Re: TDE is awesome > > | > > | | +-- Now with even more awesomeness [was TDE is awesome] > > | | +-- Re: Now with even more awesomeness > > | > > | +-- Re: TDE is awesome > > > > +-- Re: TDE is awesome > > Hi, > > I need to clarify the information a bit. > > The 293 comments are not something Bill has caused in bulk recently, but > the total number of comments in a single thread that began in February > 2018 and was confused by the fact that several other threads were started > inside that thread that were completely unrelated to the original. This is > because instead of sending a completely new message, the "initial" message > of the new thread was created in response to an old message from an > unrelated thread. > > You can see the mentioned thread here: > > https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt >op.org/thread/TSER4NCDKV6WC6ITTFOLKOZWWAVC3VFZ/ > > Note that inside the thread "I just resubscribed,..." you can find other > threads like: > > + tips on getting TDE to run smoothly > + how to enable mouse keys by default or command-line? > + quick & dirty - installation & backup > + my vanishing root partition > + my rebellious lower panel > + can burn DVDs but not CDs > + a perfectly good system shot to hell > + network problems in Devuan Jessie-Beowulf merged > + LTS has less security > + system colors & permission problems > + Brother printer - comments? > + aptoncd rejects tde-trinity pkgs > + pulseaudio conflicts with my TDE > + antiX - debian-based distro - no systemd > + how to restore/reconfigure lost wireless connection? > + how to re-index Kmail > + wireless interface not recognized on boot > + chat clients - cannot connect > + Devuan netinstall with TDE as option? > > + ...and some more until recently ... > > + ksystraycmd & panel hiding > + network-manager-tde - dependency issues > + how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ? > > > I assume that from this example it is clear what is the subject of the said > mess. Of course, adding a "SOLVED" or extending a subject is not a problem > as long as it's still the same related thread. > > This problem was not visible on the old mailing list archive, because the > threads were not followed thoroughly and, above all, they were not > followed beyond the edges of the months. > > The new archive can track threads in detail. Therefore, a thread emerged > here, which began in 2018 and was confused in this way. > > Therefore, it is a good idea to follow a simple rule that a new thread must > start as a new message, not in response to some unrelated message in which > the subject and content will be replaced. > > Cheers Sorry to "out" you, Slavek! I was only trying to play nice. Best thing is if we can start out the new mailing list on the right foot. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting