On Friday 04 September 2020 00:04:52 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Thu, 3 Sep 23:17:50 -0700 > > William Morder via trinity-users scripsit: > > On Thursday 03 September 2020 14:56:01 deloptes wrote: > > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > Remove or comment out all lines except these 2, then reboot: > > > > > > > > auto lo > > > > iface lo inet loopback > > > > > > good catch Dr. Klepp - I have completely forgotton that there are still > > > people on desktops with entries in the file. > > > When I read your question it lighted up again - to manage the networks > > > by NetworkManager there should be no entries in there (except lo as > > > pointed by you) > > > > Changed these lines now (contrary to all advice found by online > > "experts"!), and I am now rebooting in order to do a test run. > > > > Science means that I ought to be able to reproduce your results, rather > > than attributing my problems to the Men in Black. > > > > Bill > > > > > > P.S. Regarding those lines in /etc/network/interfaces > > Okay, so that did the trick, I believe, so far as getting my network to > > behave normally again. I am puzzled about why it should begin to > > misbehave, when I have been using those settings since long before TDE > > and Debian. I believe I set those lines back when I started running > > Linux, sometime around Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04, so about 2006 or 2007, > > back when I still had direct contact with other human beings. > > > > Anyway, so the worst of the issue is solved. It seems that I can go > > online/offline, back and forth, without my connection getting caught in > > some limbo then needing to reboot. > > > > However, there is yet one glitch. When I tried to use tdenetworkmanager > > to connect, I can look at all available networks, as usual, and > > everything behaves as expected. I only needed to re-enter my wifi > > password, enable my chosen network, etc., but when I go to save the > > network, I am told that I don't have sufficient permissions. > > > > On the other hand, wicd seems to work normally again, so that life can go > > on, one way or another. I would like to solve this new issue, but if not, > > at least I can control my network connection. > > What groups are you in? IMO you need to be in "netdev". > Just checked, and I am already a member of that group. Moreover, I seem to have reverted to that problem of network limbo, where I cannot go online/offline without making a mess and needing to reboot. The error message I am getting is this: ############ Unable to save network connection! Potential causese: * Insufficient permissions * NetworkManager not running * DBUS failure ############ (I would have taken a snapshot, but I find that I do not yet have ksnapshot-trinity installed.) At least I have got tdenetworkmanager's icon to look normal (a globe when it is running, a white square when not), and I can actually see the networks, just I am not allowed to use them, nor to save settings. So now I am back to using wicd for network, and fighting against Network Limbo Syndrome. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
