On Thursday 03 September 2020 08:10:44 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for > > example, > > I > > > cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd either > > auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi, > > then look at the available network choices, because my local network has > > several nodes or access points within the building where I live, and > > somehow it doesn't > > always > > > choose the strongest or closest signal. I have an access point right > > outside my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it. > > Reply: if you are using some kind of communal wifi. Don't allow auto > connect. Bad human. Instead always choose it manually. Go go prefs and > untick any auto connect options. Be safe. > No, I never allow my machine to auto-do anything. It is a "secure" network, in the sense that it has a wifi password, which is slightly less difficult that "password" "love" or "god" to figure out, and which has not been changed in nearly a year. So, yes, everybody and their dogs have already cracked our wifi password. On the other hand, it's pretty fast; and with proper precautions, I usually manage to remain either undetected or at least unmolested. > > But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show > > me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other > > stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address > > changes; and > > I > > > run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui tool) and it shows my > > wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity then no activity; > > yet > > > in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse at this point is to > > reboot. > > When that happens. Restart wicd and wicd-tray. However, before that, do > this. "service network restart" from a root terminal. See if that helps. > > > When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems > > already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and > > dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all > > *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up going back > > to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the moment, and I > > must keep rebooting. > > > > How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and > > keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've > > search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies > > and recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed. > > You don't need to remove wicd for the moment, just disable it. > /etc/xdg/autostart is likely where you will find it. > or use whatever startup control tool you have to do the same. I'll give those steps a try. I like to have wicd "there" (just in case), but I like tdenetworkmanager better. > > tdenetworkmanager never seemed to work for me unless I ran it as root. Same > with net-applet. > > Kate > When tdenetworkmanager *does* work, it is nice and simple. But mainly, I was always able to disconnect and reconnect my wifi without these lingering issues. I belief this is also the work of the seely folk or their kindred; unless the Men in Black are more clever than they have seemed thus far. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting