While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for example, I cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd either auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi, then look at the available network choices, because my local network has several nodes or access points within the building where I live, and somehow it doesn't always choose the strongest or closest signal. I have an access point right outside my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it. But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address changes; and I run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui tool) and it shows my wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity then no activity; yet in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse at this point is to reboot. When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up going back to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the moment, and I must keep rebooting. How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies and recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting