Re: [quite OT] TDE shirts

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On Wednesday 22 April 2020 08:54:47 Michael wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 April 2020 09:57:57 am William Morder via trinity-users 
wrote:
> > On Wednesday 22 April 2020 05:50:09 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 22 April 2020 12.43:52 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > >  A link on the TDE homepage would be nice
> > >
> > > If anyone is interrested in the site's address ask me (or search for
> > > Gabor Kum).
> >
> > It certainly got a lot of comments, even though the matter does not (as
> > you say) awaken any great interest.
> >
> > I think the question here is *how* anybody could take charge, even if
> > they were so inclined. When I want to donate money to TDE, I run into the
> > same problem. I hear that it can be done through PayPal (which I try to
> > avoid), but that is about all I know.
> >
> > So if anybody were to make arrangements, how would we know that any of
> > the funds were to go to TDE? From what I can see, those persons would be
> > going into business for themselves, rather than helping TDE, because
> > nobody knows how to get in touch with somebody who has authority over the
> > financial side of Trinity. Or, if such persons do exist, there is no
> > contact information that I can find anywhere.
>
> I've the same issues as Bill.  I've found this:
>
> "The TDE project was founded by and is still led by Timothy Pearson.
> Timothy is an experienced and skilled software developer and was the KDE
> 3.x coordinator of previous Kubuntu releases."
>
> So my best GUESS is that Timothy is the one who gets donations.  But... 
> The last time I offered website/hosting/mirroring support I didn’t get a
> reply [1].  The last time (most likely ever time actually) I donated I got
> nothing back as an acknowledgment.  Both are really off putting.
>
> The last time I can find donations in TDE ‘news’ is 2012 (twice), but even
> for the $2,241.50 [2] collected there is no ‘who donated list.’  ‘who
> donated lists’ being one of the biggest ways to get businesses to donate,
> as they get a link back and positive public relations.
>
> MX Linux seemed at least interested in having TDE bundled in their releases
> alongside Xfce, but who on this side would coordinate that?  Timothy?
>
> Like most here I’d like TDE to have a wider exposure and acceptance, but
> Timothy himself seems to be the biggest limiting factors to that.
>
> What to do?  Got no idea, it seems to be up to Timothy?
>
> Best All,
> Michael
>
> [1] I own:
> Internet Design Alliance, http://inet-design.com/
>
> Services include:
>     Fully Managed Dedicated Servers
>     Fully Managed Drupal Hosting
>     FailOver Backup and High Availability Solutions
>     DNS clustering
>
> So it’s not like I don’t routinely have ‘spare capacity’ to donate.  So
> getting nothing as a reply did leave me a bit ‘butthurt.’
>
> [2]  https://www.trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2012.05.01
>

Mr Pearson's avoidance of publicity or even contact with others seems more 
like the behavior of a celebrity (film or music star) who is constantly 
overwhelmed with unwanted attention. And I could understand that; for 
whatever reason, one may not wish to interact with others. (We all have our 
reasons, now and then, and nobody avoids other people more than myself.) 

But, I keep thinking, why not delegate those tasks to others who are more 
sociable? I believe that the one thing we all want is for TDE to keep going, 
because other desktops, by comparison, are crap; either they are crap, or 
they are total crap, or they are the sort of ripe stinking festering CRAP 
that gives other ordinary crap a bad name. Even the best of the competition 
doesn't come close. 

Somehow or other, TDE keeps going, and development keeps moving forward; so 
the bills get paid, servers keep running, the website stays online. Yet I 
feel rather like my using Trinity is an exercise in faith, and we must all 
keep hoping and praying that it does not come to an end, even though there is 
nothing that we can do to help. 

Anyway, if somebody could point me toward some links to donate, I had promised 
awhile back to make a donation. I was planning to do this around about my 
birthday, which was the end of February; and then all this Covid-19 stuff 
suddenly got in the way. But now I am thinking it is time to make good. 

Bill



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