On Thursday 16 April 2020 04:46:25 Stefan Krusche wrote: > Dear Bill, > > Am Samstag, 11. April 2020 schrieb William Morder via trinity-users: > > I know it's a trivial complaint, but it's still annoying that when I > > run most apps, duplicate "ghost" icons appear in my system tray, > > What are these "ghost" icons and where (from which program) do they come > from? > Stefan, Thanks for your reply. I know it's a trivial complaint, but I like to get my machines to do what I want. The question is ... which is to be master? :-) They come from (almost) whatever program I run: e.g., smplayer, psi-plus, whatever. (These are the most common examples that come to mind, but there are many others.) Now that I think about it, I wonder if they are all non-TDE programs? ... but I'd have to consider that question some more. See attachment for a sample screenshot. Look to the right of center in the bottom panel, where all the program icons are clustered together. Note that there are two icons for smplayer; one is the icon that appears in the system tray, and then there is another that is almost like it, but a sort of "ghost" - a duplicate, but as you can see it looks a little different. Sometimes I get several of these ghost icons; at other times, the ghosts are for some other program(s) that I started around the same time, and do not correspond to the program that they are supposed to represent. (So, for instance, the ghost icon will tell me, with a tooltip, when I put the mouse pointer over it, that it represents psi-plus, but the ghost icon looks like smplayer.) In any case, these items take up space, and perform no useful function, so far as I can tell. > > There are some config files which I believed might do the trick: > > /home/<USER>/.kde/share/config/systemtray_panelappletrc > > /home/<USER>/.trinity/share/config/systemtray_panelappletrc > > > > In my old KDE3 configuration (or so I *believed* that I remembered), > > I just removed ksystraycmd from this line: > > > > [HiddenTrayIcons] > > Hidden=ksystraycmd > > > > and presto! it was gone. But now it doesn't seem to work. > > Are you sure that this Option switched off *all* icons from all programs > globally? > > > Does anybody have a clue about how to suppress these ghost icons? > > (And, by extension, where are our configuration files, and how do we > > alter them?) > > The only places I could find where there are options to either show/put > an icon in the systray or not are in config files of specific programs: > Trinity Control Center has options to make an icon appear in the system tray, or not; but for some programs, it is convenient to have an icon there for a quick point-and-click (smplayer, obviously), because I want to stop and/or start a video, or hide the program. But I can't change the settings in TCC, to have the icon appear in the tray, without also having its ghost appear on first run. > $ cd .trinity/share > $ grep -ri Tray * # output trimmed > config/kteatimerc:UseTrayVis=true > config/kgetrc:systemtrayquitKGet=false > config/kmplayerrc:Dock in System Tray=true > config/tdewalletmanagerrc:systemtrayquitDienstprogramm für digitale > Brieftasche=false > config/kmailrc:SystemTrayEnabled=true > config/kmailrc:SystemTrayPolicy=ShowAlways > config/kmailrc:systemtrayquitKMail=false > config/kopeterc:Show Systemtray=true > config/kopeterc:Trayflash Notification=true > config/kopeterc:Trayflash Notification Left Click Opens Message=true > config/kopeterc:Trayflash Notification Set Current Desktop To Chat > View=true > config/kmldonkeyrc:systemtrayquitKMLDonkey=false > config/kmldonkeyrc:CloseToTrayIcon=true > config/kmldonkeyrc:ShowTrayIcon=true > config/kmixrc:TrayVolumeControl=true > config/krusaderrc:Start To Tray=false > config/tdenetworkmanagerrc:systemtrayquitKNetworkManager=false > config/kgpgrc:systemtrayquitKGpg=false > config/kxkbrc:systemtrayquitKDE-Dienstprogramm für die Tastatur=false > config/kxkbrc:systemtrayquitTDE-Dienstprogramm für die Tastatur=false > config/uiserverrc:ShowSystemTray=false > config/kwalletmanagerrc:systemtrayquitDienstprogramm für digitale > Brieftasche=false > config/kwalletmanagerrc:systemtrayquitKDE Wallet Manager=false > config/kshutdownrc:systemtrayquitKShutDown=false > config/kjobviewerrc:systemtrayquitKJobViewer=false > > So maybe you can't globally prevent all programs running inside TDE from > placing icons in the systray but only switch that off on a per program > basis. > > If that is the case you still might find an option like that within the > program you are using and which you don't want to place an icon in > systray. > > I don't know if any of this applies to your situation with "duplicate > ghost icons", but I thought I'd give it a try to help. > > If it doesn't you can do what I once did to find a bug in my TDE > configuration: > > 1. create a new user (Don't name him/her "test" with password "test" ;) > 2. Can you observe the phenomenon under the new (unconfigured) user? If > not: > 3. Log out from the new user account, copy one of the relevant config > files after another into the corresponding .trinity/* directory of the > newly created user and see if the phenomenon reappears after the next > login. Then you would know in which file the option is set and you > could compare these old/new config files. > > HTH > > Kind regards, > Stefan > Thanks much. I will run through these suggestions to see if anything helps. Bill
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