Greetings; And I had just had it update everything, 162 of the 165 packages being from TDE. >From here, all indications of an extended to 20 minutes e2fsck or something. No response to a ping, no response to an attempted ssh -Y alias login. So I slip on a t-shirt and stumble out to the machine at 3AM, to be greeted by its own login greeter. So I logged in, all normal. And now that I'm logged in there, everything else is also working normally. So its own login has been moved up early so nothing in the way of services is running until after the local login. This. to be blunt, is a disaster for the way I have normally worked to maintain these machines for over a decade. Can this be unfixed? Its a right pain in the ass to be locked out of a machine because the local login hasn't been done. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting