On 2019-07-25 23:17:21 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > On Thursday 25 July 2019 20:40:45 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 25 July 2019 16:17:27 Mike Bird wrote: > > > On Thu July 25 2019 10:51:52 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > gene@coyote:/etc/cron.daily$ tdesudo synaptic > > > > tdesudo: error while loading shared libraries: libtdecore.so.14: > > > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > > > > Hi Gene, > > > > > > I have no idea how you can have TDE installed and running without > > > one of the most important TDE libraries. Perhaps a path problem. > > > > No, well not intentional. Its looking, or trying to, > > at /opt/trinity/lib64 but there's only a lib dir. Maybe this explains > > other stuff thats wonky too. Like my index problems with kmail a couple > > months back, etc etc. > > > > This was a 32 bit install until I updated to stretch for amd64 on this > > machine. > > > > So how do I convert an uptodate r14 install from 32 bit to 64 bit? > > > > here's the trinity.list > > # Trinity repositories > > deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/ > > stretch main > > deb > > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/de > >bi an/ stretch main > > > > So I don't see an amd64 spec. > > > > > Meanwhile have you considered setting a root password? Requiring > > > a key instead of a password for ssh root login makes sense. And > > > requiring sudo on systems with multiple admins with different > > > privilege levels makes sense. But I don't see why you are making > > > things hard for yourself on your systems but not having a root > > > password. > > > > 1. I'm the only active, warm blooded user 1000. There are of course > > other "users" but most of that is just sandboxing. > > > > And 2, debian has never been real fond of pw's for root. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > I'm with Gene on part 1 of this question: no root password for a single > user system. I don't see any real purpose in making oneself log in as root > to perform administrative tasks; it is enough to use sudo or su, so long as > the admin is the only user, and the password is very secure. (If somebody > wants to take 20 million years to brute-force my password, go right ahead, > as it isn't written down anywhere, and it is really long, and has lots of > messy characters. Oh, and I also alternate among 4 different complex > passwords.) Of course, quantum computers will change all this, but maybe by > then we'll also have some kind of comparable quantum encryption. > > However, part 2: tdesu is very useful for getting things done; and it never > makes me log in as root. To do that, you have to set up your system for > root logins, so it seems to me that you must have done this either on the > original installation (one of the questions asked by the installer), or > maybe you did it under the Trinity Control Center: > > TCC / System Administration / Login Manager / Convenience / Miscellaneous / > Allow Root Login > > I never clicked that box, but maybe Gene did. > > Bill Re 1) since OpenSuSE's philosophy has always been to set and use a root password, that has always been what I am used to. 2) Certainly TDEsu (and especially the KDE3 equivalent) used to work seamlessly, though the last two times I installed Trinity I had to figure out the necessary steps to defeat its Nanny treatment of the root password issue (which presumably it has inherited from the Ubuntu philosophy). Leslie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting